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videos (2010-06-04)

kokopelliguy-2008

CO native

Dave awesome videos!!!! thanks for sharing!

Video (2010-05-28)

Dave

Loveland, Colorado

Lion's Loop videos Trip 2 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi8T7usep4Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me_tAcTKhmk

Another Video (2010-05-27)

Dave

Loveland, Colorado

Here is another short video of the morning at the first campsite. Blueberry pancakes! UUUUUUUMM! me like! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muPAWHDblo0

5/27/2010 Videos (2010-05-27)

Dave

Loveland, Colorado

Thanks Alex & Brenda and all the staff. This is the guy who got the award for staying up the latest and getting up the earliest I think it was. Everything went real smoothly I thought, just had a wonderful time, the food was great! plentiful, the staff was helpful and a pleasure to hang out with, it was a five star event and would certainly do it again. Another note I shot a lot of video about twenty some short clips, some didn't turn out where I had the camera set wrong, so I just got a single picture instead of video, anyway here are some of the first ones and will add more as I download to youtube, thanks again and take care everyone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxeEJiYKEF8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aQh-8Rtnr4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG00JinFcE8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zy5ba2wfG0

Moab (2010-05-13)

Mic

Denver, Colorado

Plan B to Moab was the best back up I could imagine given the weather. Who the hell wants to pedal 142 miles through mud. I for one am too lazy to clean it out of my chain every 2 miles. Great job guys, all of you! I was the one who separated 3-4 ribs from my sternum, bruised my heart and kidney in a big digger on Slickrock, and I still have no regrets about going. I earned the nickname "Nurple" for this, and after two weeks of recovery so far, I am still a mess, finished my first road race of the season when I returned, and I am still glad we opted for Moab. Best decision of the trip! Alex, brenda, Tyler, et al, excellent job! My only fault was I gained about 5 pounds from eating/ drinking too much!

(2010-05-12)

Ted

Kenosha, WI

Great Job, Alex - Your instructions for bike shipping and storage at the hotel made for a smooth trip out to Colorado. The gear transport and unpacking at the end of the trip went fast and flawlessly. Hopefully I can come back and bring a couple of friends.

(2010-05-12)

Don

Loveland

Alex, Brenda and all the staff: once again you did a great job. I’m as inclined to come back for the Bikerpelli experience as for the Kokopelli Trail itself. The food was plentiful and great, and Josh’s coffee has forever spoiled my morning Mr. Coffee. Crew was always available and ready to drop what they were doing to assist with individual problems. Looking forward to riding with you again. Great pics, Jason.

KUDO's (2010-05-12)

kokopelliguy-2008

CO native

Alex, Nicely said!! You and your staff were always above and beyond! Keep up the good work. See you next year.

Pictures (2010-05-12)

Jason

Colorado Springs, CO

I posted pictures from trip #2 at: http://picasaweb.google.com/112727611577850569945/Kokopelli2010# If you tended to ride in the back of the pack, you might see yourself in a shot or two! I encourage others to provide pointers to their photos as well. Thanks for the great support Alex and team!

Boulder, CO (2010-05-12)

Bikerpelli Sports

2010 ride recap

What a year! Trip 2 recap – perfect. That pretty much covers it. Aside from an afternoon headwind on day one the weather couldn’t be better. Strong riders with lots of character and no difficulties to speak of. Lots of cookies & Cytomax. Y’all can plug in the rest. Trip 1 wasn’t the Picasso we were shooting for. Long story short we had terrible weather in Fruita & the La Sal Mtns were socked in with snow, so after much deliberation & even a last-minute attempt at the trail we decided to cancel Kokopelli operations for both safety & operational reasons. It simply wasn’t feasible or smart operate in those conditions. So for those that gathered on that snowy morning we did our best to salvage the weekend by operating a basecamp out of Moab, in hopes that the weather “doughnut hole” in that area stayed dry. We got lucky & the weather held in most areas. Those who chose to stay were rewarded with loosely-structured local trailrides in multiple areas daily, and many riders managed to pedal over 100 miles of dry singletrack. Hat’s off to y’all who pushed on in spite of the weather & made the most of difficult conditions, you are ALL true athletes! Another option was presented as well – those with the means & ability to transfer to trip two were rescheduled and returned for a fantastic trip a week later. There will be a partial credit issued to those riders towards 2011, details coming in a separate email. We understand the disappointment in not being able to complete Kokopelli Trail but as we all know, there ain’t no controlling the weather. For what its worth we’ve done this for 9 years & this was by far the worst weather we’ve consistently seen on trail. Ever. For those interested in the details of our decisions here’s a little background info for you. We already knew the higher elevations were socked in which meant we couldn’t access our second camp by vehicle and the Upper Porcupine sections were shut down by the NFS. The question became whether or not to attempt the Fruita end of the trail. Once that soil reaches a certain saturation level the bentonite clay becomes as sticky as cement & as slick as axle grease. To put a large group in remote backcountry terrain is one thing, but to support them & keep them safe is another thing entirely. In those conditions the possibility of having up to 90 stranded (and probably hypothermic) riders in areas inaccessible by vehicle is unacceptable, and if we can’t deliver 100% on our promise of support then we simply can’t make that promise. Second, there are multiple points where the trail flirts with cliffside exposure & long (deadly) drops, sometimes only a few feet away. Now we’ve never been the types to run around screaming “safety, safety” like an expectant mother shopping for a minivan, we wouldn’t be in the MTB biz if we were, but sending riders to traverse cliffs on extremely slick surfaces (think icerink on an incline) crosses the line between calculated risk & gross negligence. No offense to mothers or minivans intended. Finally there are environmental concerns – 90 riders in muddy singletrack would permanently damage the trail, and it would be grossly egotistical to put our interests before the trail itself. As for our backup plans we agree things could have been better organized. All we can say is we did our absolute best to manage 90 wet, cold & understandably impatient riders and provide all the structure we could at the time. We have multiple contingency plans – always – but unfortunately they’re just pencil sketches. The problem is the choice of contingencies must be based on conditions at the time, consequently most decisions must be made minute-by-minute & can’t be thoroughly planned in advance. So let’s say you’re driving your car & suddenly the road’s closed. No sweat, do a U-turn. But what if there are 60 cars all following you with no idea of the detour? Now you’re talking about serious logistical, safety & communication operations with every decision & action having far-reaching consequences. It’s very easy to end up in gridlock with everyone honking their horns angrily. That’s how ANY plan-B looks to us. Take-home message, there’s just no turning on a dime for 90 riders, luggage, parking, camp space, permits, shuttles, resources, waste, maps, timelines, etc. Rule #1 of large group management is to promise only what you know you can deliver to everyone, equally. So in these situations we first determine what we know we can deliver, then promise to do it. It doesn’t work the other way around, we’d just get gridlock & horn-honking. So for those who think we did a poor job we’d encourage you to start your own tours & show us just how easy it is, we’re pretty confident your opinion would quickly change. Finally comes refunds, credits, rollovers & the like. Most understand there’s always a risk of bad weather with any outdoor event, and that those conditions could scuttle everything. Our event materials clearly state that this is a rain or shine event with no rescheduling. They also state that should the trail conditions become unrideable that we’d do our best to salvage what we could from the weekend, be it a Moab or Fruita basecamp operation. So with that said, we WILL be offering a partial credit to all the trip 1 riders who showed up ready to go that morning. We want you back next year so you can tick Kokopelli off your list. Details of this will be emailed to you shortly. There are a handful of riders looking for full or partial cash refunds, the logic being since we weren’t on Kokopelli we must have pocketed all the money while delivering very little to the riders. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Please bear in mind that 90% of the work takes place long before we get in the field. Consequently there are very few recoverable costs. It’s sort of like planning a wedding & the Bride doesn’t show up, all the work is already done & paid for. Some of you will get that, some won’t. For those who don’t, we’d encourage you to check out some other outfitters who operate on the Kokopelli Trail – there are lots. They have far more flexible terms since they work with smaller groups and rates start at about $1000 per rider. We don’t mean that sarcastically – we hate to lose riders – but the reality is that our event isn’t for everyone and we’d rather people realize that early rather than be disappointed later. So there it is, this year’s recap. Every year is an adventure and we welcome the challenges & rewards of that – hope you do too! See you in 2011!

2010 Trip #2 (2010-05-11)

Brigette

Atlanta, GA

This was my first trip and we started it after being in Moab and Fruita for 5+ days so I already got my falls and bruises out of the way. Each day was an epic and an adventure for us. The wind coming out of Rabbit Valley the first day was crazy but it was warm so it was just a better work out. The climb up Entrada day two was sandy and really hard for me but it made me stronger for the 3rd days Alpine climb. I've not camped in years and can't say I miss that part but it was hard to notice since the Bikerpelli staff made life so wonderful for everyone. You'd think you are the only person there w the personal attention you get. These folks work their tails off from 6:00 am until way after everyone goes to bed yet still treat you like you are on an episode of the Love Boat. I am slow and arrived close to last at all of the SAGS and finishes but everyone was made to feel very accomplished. Thank you Alex, this was our 10 year wedding anniversary present to each other and Bikerpelli made it really special.

Great Ride (2010-05-11)

Karl

aurora. co

The ride was better this year. I will take the wind over the rain and hail, of last years ride! The food was better this year. The return staff and the new staff did a KICK A** JOB! BIG THANKS! Mark,Tanner, Mark, Stephen good job rode the whole ride. Good riding with you. Each day is a adventure, at end of the day was Beer and Chips. Good way to end a good day of riding!

Second Trip (2010-05-11)

Chris

Marietta, GA

The trip went very well for us. The wind made the second half of day 1 a bit challenging. The night temperatures were cold, but not unexpected. Many thanks to the volunteers that cooked, cleaned, cheered us on, helped with our camps and fixed bikes from 6am to well past 9pm. The food was tasty and plentiful, maybe too much food, but that is better than not enough. There was always plenty of water as well and even a bin full of bars at the lunch stops. Alex and crew really know how to put on a good trip. There were shuttles when needed, great camping, fun bike tag, and good ride briefings each morning. We rode on 2.1 - 2.3 tires, with standard tubes. I had one slow leak at the end of day 2, and one broken spoke (thanks Alex for helping replace it). Not bad for 3 days in the desert. My suggestions would be to give riders a better understanding of the elevation gain and mileage. This information is on the maps, but it would be nice to see some totals for each leg of the trip: miles and cumulative gain (not net gain).

Great Trip (2010-05-10)

Jon

COS

Weather was VERY cooperative. Heavy wind coming out of Rabbit Valley sag, but other than that nice and cool with lots of sun. Entrada was hot (and sandy and rocky), but I got a nice escort into camp by Frank B. Thanks!

2nd week (2010-05-10)

Joel

COS

Well? Did the second week fare better than the first week? I heard there was lots of sand (no surprise there) and cold weather still. Who has a ride report?

1st Week Ride (2010-05-04)

Swiss Peter

AZ

Too much has been said, but I still like to give my opinion. I have some outdoor experience like mountaineering, adventure racing, 24-hrs non-stop back-country racing (map + compass only) thru some of the most rugged terrain possible. There is absolutely no question, this event could not have been held safely with the group present and could not have been supported adequately; maybe hard-core multi-day adventure racers that are used to carry 15-20 pounds and be self-supported even in most dangerous conditions could have survived. I was in last year’s 1st-week Bikerpelli and we had bad weather on day 3. It was drizzle raining in the morning and about 25% bailed out Onion Creek right after breakfast. Making it to the lunch stop was no “stroll in the park” considering the cold, rain, hail, and sleet we had for hours; including miles of mud. I was well equipped but did struggle a bit a few times. I “lucked out” at the lunch stop since the worst storm just hit after I arrived. Everybody there waited it out inside the UHaul while Alex organized a shuttle to take us down to Moab; I politely declined and rode it out on the paved road down the Colorado river valley; battling strong headwinds J … it was a fun finish of a great experience! The ones that made it up the road to the beginning of Sand Flat road endured an unbelievable mud night-mare that took its toll on people and equipment. My friend’s bottom bracket and rear derailleur were destroyed; a costly present from the weather! The entire trip was a great experience; thanks to Alex and the staff of Bikerpelli. Having said that, I believe this year’s back-up plan and happenings could have been a bit better organized and communicated. Distributing some maps at the new camp site would have helped a lot. However, I totally understand that Alex went through a lot of stress on Thursday morning when the weather continued to be nasty and the enthusiasm of the crowed didn’t wane. But there was certainly no need to bash and bad-mouth him and his organization. A little bit of patience, flexibility, understanding, and the willingness to compromise could have (and has) solved this situation. Despite the disappointment of my friends Paula, Dave (this was his 1st vacation in 5 years) and me not being able to do this ride (without shuttles ) we had a great time and are certainly considering doing it again. I agree, a discount for next year (or next time) would certainly be a nice gesture.

Re: Joel (2010-05-04)

Ibis

Mo

Joel, I see where you and I are getting confused. After Alex cancelled the ride, I got my gear and headed home. I believe you were thinking I stayed and met in Moab. I posted my thoughts and frustrations, which I will not go threw again, in a civil manner. I am not asking anyone to agree or disagree, they are simply my thoughts. You will never get consensus, but everyone should be able to express themselves as long as they are respectful to others. I am stoked you all had a good time, I would have never wanted anything different for those who chose to stay. My beef is with the poor communication and planning and that is where it remains and ends.

(2010-05-04)

John

CO

trip 2-we are looking golden. NOAA showing no precip. in the area all week. Hot and breezy currently, getting those trails nice and dry. 60's and 70's-sunny.

Trip 1 Salvaged (2010-05-04)

Arlan

Boulder, CO

I was one of the Trip 1 riders standing in the blowing snow with mud building up on my tires, when the decision was made to cancel the Kokopelli Trail and move to Moab to search out better riding. Like most of the other riders, I was relieved. It was absolutely the right decision. In fact, it was the ONLY reasonable decision, and one that I hope is made again if similar conditions exist. It could have turned into a totally miserable, even life threatening, trip. As others have said, we found great riding in Moab after the trip logistics shifted there. Alex and the staff went out of their way to accommodate the participants, and most (if not all) who stuck around for the remainder of the trip (approx. 75% - 80% of the original participants) were fully satisfied and grateful that the trip was salvaged so well. Bikerpelli did a good job adapting in a difficult situation. And the food was excellent. I would absolutely continue to recommend Bikerpelli, and I am expecting to be there next year as well. Thanks Alex, for a memorable, enjoyable trip.

Conditions (2010-05-04)

Trip #2 Rider

Littleton, CO

OK, Enough of the babble! Let's ride! How do the trails look in Fruita, look good for Thursday riding?

Great job Alex (2010-05-04)

kokopelliguy-2008

CO native

Alex, Keep doing what you do because you give so much enjoyment and entertainment to so many satisfied customers!! You and your organization are awesome and you have superlative insites on making the right call. I have ridden with your organization and I will say yours is the best! Keep doing what you do best and the rest of us will follow and appreciate everything you put into the efforts! Keep riding and enjoy the moments! We don't get many.

(2010-05-04)

John

CO

Ah ha! Wow, how did I know that even though I wasn't there. Weird. Thanks for that Joel. Exactly as I expected. Like I said- The manner in which it was presented. I didn't need to be there to know that. I know this guy's type, see it all the time. Point-counterpoint.

Re: Steve (2010-05-03)

Joel

COS

I was sitting right next to you guys when you ganged up on Alex shortly after arriving in camp. I heard parts of your conversation (I wasn't trying to listen, it was just hard to ignore you) and then, after you were "done" with Alex - with the admonition that, "you haven't heard the last from us yet", I flagged him over to ask a question about another issue. While we were talking, you rudely interrupted us and barked for Alex to come to you like a dog or an errant kid, rather than wait until he was free again. We seem to agree that it's not about whether the decision was right or not or whether he should give any type of refund or not or even how quickly he cobbled together the plan once we knew the reality of the weather situation.. My issue with you is about how you guys handled the situation; which like I said in my original post was like a bunch of spoiled brats. Now to think that anything Alex did or does is because of you guys? You've got to be kidding me! What an ego! Alex is a stand up guy and wants to do the right thing as much because it's good business as because it's being a good person and that's the kind of guy he is; I would wager a lot that it has absolutely nothing to do with you guys.

1st Kokopelli Ride Cancelled... (2010-05-03)

Dan Gee

Cedar Rapids, IA

Alex, You made a tough call in a difficult situation. Weather also runs my life as a contractor. I have seen many many thousands of dollars go out the window when a predicted weather pattern goes unpredictable. There is one thing about weather, nobody can change it. I recall you stating that in all the years you have been hosting this tour there has never been such a stretch of poor weather that actually caused a cancellation of this ride. Wow. So there is a precedent here, and until now a totally separate plan has not been necessary. All things change, and lessons learned says that a plan B is a good idea. Your plan B was articulated, but perhaps, delayed, or in a manner that was misunderstood. I'll give you that. Communicating clearly to a large restless group that wants resoultion and they "want it now" requires foresight and a clear plan. If there was any mistake, I think that is all that could said. Now, as the roadie "gone mountain bike wild" I want to say to you and your group that my very first mountain biking experience was quite excellent. The plan B turned lemons into lemonade. Your staff was fun, friendly, helpful, made great meals and supported the wilderness experience quite nicely, and bike tag was a hoot! I would recommend the Bikerpelli organization to all necomers and I am certain those who already have experienced it WILL return of their own volition. I appreciate the extra effort you and your organization put forth to produce this fine "Plan B" effort that in fact turned out to be an excellent format of it's own accord. Great job, Thank You!

re: whinner (2010-05-03)

Frank

Grand Junction, Colo.

I have ridden the Bikerpelli many time's and this is the first time that the Kokopelli trail was a no go. The area of the first 1/2 day is almost all clay and is impossible to ride when really wet. Several year's we have had rain/snow for a few hour's but never for several day's in a row. Alex had no choice but to change plans and go to Moab. BTW the riding in Moab was great. I rode Friday with about 18 and we did 32 miles almost all some of the best single track in Moab. The route we did was a custom and would not be found by the usual tour group let alone individuals. There were other ride groups and some with even more milage. If you want value you could try Western Spirits which is a good touring comp. and only costs about $1000 for the same package. Alex has alway's been fair to rider's that is why he has a very high return rate for rider's on each Bikerpelli. " You really missed it you should have been here yesterday" Frank

Nothing More to Say (2010-05-03)

Does it matter?

State of Confusion

You can always tell when people have no basis for their argument. They always resort to personal attacks and slams instead of point / counter-point or they ignore the issue all together and just ramble on about nothing important to the conversation.

(2010-05-03)

John

CO

kokopelliguy. Good post to change the subject with since the matter of the first trip has been beaten to death. And I only bring it up since there maybe be some people now wondering about heading out into our backcountry, charges for S&R and perhaps freaking out about a "hiker" card. The hiker card in Colorado is the most misunderstood subject in the CO outdoor community. In Colorado, there are volunteer teams in almost every county and they work under the direction of the sheriff's department. They do not charge for S&R. You will get rescued in CO free of charge. The only charge you may encounter is if you are transferred to a medical unit and then its just like if you were injured in town and that’s between your insurance company and the hospital. Here’s a link explaining it better. http://www.huts.org/whats_new/corsar.html Now Utah may be different and it apperas they may charge over there, http://www.travelheadlines.utah.com/2010/04/moab-search-and-rescue-prepares-for.html So if you’re going to need rescued, try to drag yourself back over the state line.

call Alex st louis blues (2010-05-03)

kokopelliguy-2008

CO native

So St Louis Steve. Please note the phone number at the bottom of the Bikerpelli web page. Maybe instead if singing the Blues to people maybe you should go straight to the source and get some resolution to YOUR satisfaction and quit trying to gain forces behind your 435(got it right this time) out of pocket loss. Oh by the way S&R means search and rescue, and in CO/UT if you don't have a hiker card you pay the bill to have teams come find you,rescue you,and haul your carcass out, just to enlighten your expertice? Bikerpelli Sports, Inc. • 3155 Dartmouth Ave Boulder CO 80305 • Ph: 303.875.9000 • Fax: 303.554.9240 CALL THEM! This is located on the bottom of the home page. Just so you know where your going. Next time PLEASE choose another out-fitter!!! Even if things went perfect I believe your personality would be controversial given the results.

(2010-05-03)

John

CO

"Fell on deaf ears" was probably not the right term It was a nice way to say they were ignoring you because you were annoying and in their faces with your recommendations on how he should run his business. I do it my 5 year old when he won't let up up on something. Thanks for the geography lesson. Last time I checked St Louis was in Missouri and for some transgression in a past life, you are forced to live there so don't be mad at us.

To Kokopelliguy (2010-05-03)

Steve

St. Louis

Kokopelliguy I agree that it's time to move on but as I move on let's be perfectly clear since you still just don't seem to get it. You are still stuck on the subject of whether or not the trip should have been canceled. Read my posts. They have nothing to do with the cancellation itself. Perhaps it was the best thing to do. I don't think that anyone of us will ever really know and hindsight is 20/20. What it is about is the way in which it was handled after the cancellation and what we and everyone else received for our registration fee.

St louis (2010-05-03)

kokopelliguy-2008

CO native

Good for you! St Louis Steve. Glad you had a good time. Speaking of time, its time to move on. Glad you were able to correct my numbers. I was really worried about that. Sounds like your an accomplished rider.....But you've never riden the KOKO in the rain like most of the other riders have. One slip and you'll end up like some of the unfortunate souls that have plumetted to their demise on Poison Spider. But good luck to you and your ego.

re: John (2010-05-03)

Steve

St. Louis

regarding:"(2010-05-03) John CO Even though I wasn't there at the time, I'm going to go out on a limb (and probably not very far) Because it sounds like everything that was promised was eventually delivered upon, the reason your "recommendations" and "strong opinions" fell on deaf ears was the manner in which they were presented. You don't need to respond- I think we can all read between the lines. We have an unwritten state motto here-Welcome to Colorful Colorado-Now Leave" Great attitude John. You really don't have any idea of how they were presented do you? Apparently they did not fall on deaf ears as it seems that in the end Bikerpelli might have adopted some of the suggestions. And BTW it seems to me that the entire event was held in Moab was it not? Last time I checked Moab is not in CO

kokopelliguy-2008 (2010-05-03)

Steve

St. Louis MO

In response to : -------St Louis (2010-05-03) kokopelliguy-2008 Native CO re: whiner Steve, you sure you were in the right place. Sounds like you got lost in Moab. For sure you would have been a S&R victim that you would have ended up paying thousands of dollars for a team to come and find you! Consider youself lucky it only cost you 495 for getting lost.------- I am not sure just what you are talking about or trying to infer. Our group was not lost and on the contrary are quite familiar with Moab. Members of the group have made many trips to Moab, ridden most of the trails there and have raced at 24 hours of Moab. I think it's pretty obvious that we were in the right place. And BTW, it was $435 not $495. I am glad that it all worked out to your satisfaction in the end. My primary dissatisfaction is not in what you ended up doing it is in the ability for Bikerpelli to articulate any kind of plan whatsoever upon our arrival at the Moab base camp. You may have ended up with what you wanted but I can look anyone right in the eye and tell them with 100% percent certainty that when we spoke with Alex that was not the case. At that point he said everything was canceled. No shuttles, no private camp ground, BBQ, etc. At that point we went on our way and rode Klondike bluffs, Baby steps, Porcupine and Gemini bridges before returning to Fruita to ride the Kokopelli trails. Under normal conditions Bikerpeli may do a great job. In this case however the ability to adapt to the situation in a timely and professional manner was definitely lacking.

last weeks rides (2010-05-03)

wimpyrider

600 miles away

Hi, I took 3 days vacation and drove 600 miles for the 3 day ride. The descision to delay and then cancel the ride was the correct one in my opinion. The mud was real bad in the parking lot and the weather the next two days would have been pretty bad over the mountains. We could all see that from Moab and feel the temps drop when the storms would roll thru. To ride all day in it would have been bad for most. 2-4 hours, no problem for most ,but all day in the cold and wet and things would have gotten real bad. There did not seem to be a back up plan at all at first. I think some people had their bags in the transport trucks and were getting ready to ride out of the parking lot. We are lucky people did not pedal off a few minutes early and end up out there with no support. We drove to Moab, rode Thursday, Friday, and Saturday morning then left and drove home skipping the campground rv park party. The meals were decent and the beer was great. There was some attempt made to organize group rides and maybe a shuttle. I would not take 3 days off work and drive that far for this type of riding, food and camping for $435.00 ever. I think they should have offered a partial refund or 1/2 credit towards another ride and am curious how much money they made on less work and expense. I understand they had bought food, rented trucks and hired some staff to work, The general feeling was "we got your money, the trip is cancelled, and this is what we are offering". I would not advise anyone to sign up for this ride unless there is a better back up plan in place ahead of time.

St Louis (2010-05-03)

kokopelliguy-2008

Native CO

re: whiner Steve, you sure you were in the right place. Sounds like you got lost in Moab. For sure you would have been a S&R victim that you would have ended up paying thousands of dollars for a team to come and find you! Consider youself lucky it only cost you 495 for getting lost.

2008 (2010-05-03)

Ryan Kragerud, aka Biking Viking

Longmont CO

OH, and, for what its worth, I came back in 2008 to ride again, because nothing could've been worse than 2007. And, 2008 was great. Sunny and beautiful probably like this weeks ride. Anyway, I hope all those folks who didn't get to ride the trail last week will make an effort to ride the Koko this week, or next year. later

2007 1st Ride (2010-05-03)

Ryan Kragerud

Longmont, CO

Sounds like there was a bit of turmoil on the first ride. I really hoped to make the ride this year but, unfortunately had to bail. I rode in 2006, 2007 and 2008. Let me tell those of you who weren't there about 2007, first ride, and maybe those of you that were, can corraborate this story. You do not want to be anywhere in Rabbit Valley, the Western Rim, Bitter Creek Camping or Fisher Valley (night 2) when the weather turns. In 2007, the weather turned and the normal endurance test turned into a suffer/survival fest. Day one was sunny, initially, with about 30 something percent chance of rain. At about 11am while most of us were hiking up from the Rail Road just passed Steve's loop the weather turned. It went from sunny and windy to rain, hail, thunder and lightning. In that section of the first day there is no cover. None. It is not a place you want to be when the weather turns. About 20 of us hauled as fast as we could for two miles with no cover to the frontage road along I-70 and hunkered down beneathe some scrub oaks. It rained, blew, and hailed for about twenty minutes. We then made it to lunch at Rabbit Valley. The weather broke long enough for us to get through the mud of Rabbit Valley and down a portion of the Western Rim. Making our way into camp that late afternoon was another level of hell/sufferfest. It was raining, cold in the mid - upper 30's. the basin below the BitterCreek Campsite was a sloppy mess. Luckily there was a gravel two track we were able to ride up. Day two we were able to ride most the way however the climb out of Dewey Bridge was cancelled and therefore we all had to ride up Onion Creek road in the rain and cross a bajillion stream crossing. We got to camp and froze our asses off. The next morning we woke to snow. A wall of snow was moving in across the valley from Beaver Mesa. That's an ominious feeling having to break camp and get the trucks out or be stuck there. It was a muddy descent down Onion Creek Road, as a matter of fact alot of folks had to walk the downhill for safety. Anyway it took forever to get the grit out of my der, cogset, crankset and so forth. I thrashed my bottom bracket too. So for those of you who are upset about your Bikerpelli experience all I have to say is be happy your able to complain about it being cancelled and not recovering in some bed somewhere, racking up a nasty hospital bill. Which, if you were I'd bet you'd be talking to your attorneys about how you were "made" forced to ride. etc. Be happy you're healthy and for what it's worth, the lesson's learned in 2007 probably contributed to the cancellation you suffered. '07 sucked.

(2010-05-03)

John

CO

Even though I wasn't there at the time, I'm going to go out on a limb (and probably not very far) Because it sounds like everything that was promised was eventually delivered upon, the reason your "recommendations" and "strong opinions" fell on deaf ears was the manner in which they were presented. You don't need to respond- I think we can all read between the lines. We have an unwritten state motto here-Welcome to Colorful Colorado-Now Leave

re:Whiners (2010-05-03)

Steve

St. Louis

"He provided everything he said he would, including a safe trip. We had a nice camp every night (including the RV/Camping resort with hot showers the last night), 3 great meals a day and riding. He organized various groups to head off in different directions. And MoabMan, yes, there were privies, too, so pretty much all of your rant is a lie. " Joel, perhaps you should be better informed before making such statements. I do not recall you being part of any of the conversations that we had directly with Alex upon our arrival at the Moab "base camp" So unless you have psychic abilities you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Upon our arrival Alex was just sitting in the back of a Subaru. We inquired about what was planned for the following days. We were told that the event was canceled and that what we saw was what you get. We were totally on our own to do whatever we wanted and he was going to provide meals at the base camp and beer would be flowing. We asked about the private camp, BBQ, etc for Saturday and his reply was that it was also canceled. We asked if there were any local rides scheduled. Again, the answer was no the event is canceled. We asked if we could get shuttle service and his exact response was "no, I am not a shuttle service". Even more direct we asked about a shuttle to the Porcupine Rim trail head and we were told no and that we couldn't ride there anyway as the trail was closed due to snow. (BTW, we and another 100 or so folks that we saw along the way enjoyed a great ride on Porcupine Rim Friday. Even better, some of the locals said the trail has not been closed or snow covered for approximately 1 month. How could Alex be so misinformed???) Alex was the organizer and leader of the trip. All we wanted him to do was take ownership and actually organize and lead. But all we got was the trip is canceled we'll have food and beer here at the base camp. Let's assume that the folks who signed up for the trip know nothing about Moab. Shouldn't Alex have had a better contingency plan with information about local trails, directions on how to get there, shuttle service, etc all planned out? So based on that level of responsiveness and organization yes we were and are upset. No one on earth would pay $435 to simply camp on free government land and get a few meals prepared and some beer when your level of expectation was a 4 day event from Fruita to Moab fully supported along the Kokopelli. It's not even remotely comparable. Now, on to the stuff that you eventually did get. Everything that you claim he eventually did is exactly what we told him that he should have been doing. During the course of our conversation those were all recommendations that we made and told him that as a responsible leader and organizer that he should be doing. We recommended that he set up planned rides with shuttle service, we questioned why the private camp ground and BBQ was canceled and suggested it be reinstated. We asked about the camp toilet and shower facilities that were not there when we arrived and stated that they needed to be provided. So perhaps you should be thanking us for the services that you did eventually receive because I can assure you that at the time that we talked to Alex he had made no plans to offer any of it. Here is something to ponder.... Do you think that we would have been upset or at minimum nearly as upset if when we arrived at ~ 6-6:30 PM Alex had told us that he had some kind of plan for the next couple of days? That he had information on the area? That he had planned rides and shuttle service? If he had not made ridiculous statements such as "Porcupine Rim is closed"? That the private camp ground with showers and BBQ, etc was still a go and not canceled? etc Of course not. Sure it was disappointing that the actual trip was canceled and we had to cover the expense and the lost time with the delayed start and then driving ourselves to Moab. But the subject of whether or not it should have been canceled is a separate debate and one that I also have strong opinions on. No, this is about the what happened after the trip was canceled. The weather was not a surprise. It was forecast over a week earlier. A good company and solid leader would and should have had a better plan of how to take care of the 90 riders who had each paid him $435. At minimum, this is a poorly run company from an organizational standpoint and could certainly use some help in the customer service area as well as I would have expected Bikerpelli to go out of their way to be accommodating after the cancellation of the trip and this simply was not the case. I have personally organized large races, helped in many other large race events, attended many large non-race events and have never had an experience like this one. I guess with enough beer and nude bike tag (whatever that is) the memories seem better? I for one could care less about the beer and certainly nude bike tag. I faithfully paid my $435 for a supported trip from Fruita to Moab on the Kokopelli.

(2010-05-03)

John

CO

Joel and Michael-thanks for clearing that up. That's what i thought. Sounds like the the truth is they did what they said they would do in the registration packet. BTW, I received my packet on Feb 3, one month prior to the last cancellation date so I had plenty of time to back out if I didn't like the terms and conditions and was worried about Bikerpelli "stealing" my money. That's the way it goes in CO. I've lost my deposit on ski condos in the mountains when weather made it too dangerous to try to make it up. Sounds like Bikerpelli did what they could. I'm sure they're used to the complaints-think about it. 90 people. Even if the trip goes off without a hitch, you'll still have a few that won't be happy about something. That's why I've never wanted to be in the "guide" or "supported trip" end of the outdoor industry. I took them up on the offer to join with this week's trip. The weather looks good, but NOAA still has some rain in the area on Thursday.

1st ride (2010-05-03)

kokopelliguy-2008

Native CO

Sound like the whiners don't have clue what desert MTN biking is about. You try to prepare for the best and the worst, Hmmm sounds a lot like life. You critical babies should be thanking Alex and his team for saving your DA's. You obviously don't have a clue on survival skills and you would be the first ones to perish in that envirionment. Do us ALL a favor and ride in the midwest on your paved trails. Sounds like everyone had a good tiime except for the whiners. AKA not real MTN bikers. Stick to the roady. Alex is a trained out-fitter and EMT. If he felt he would be risking even the best survivalist in the desert and cancelled, he had his reasons. Sounds like you babies just didn't want to join the rest of the team. Stay away from CO we don't need your type. You guys are the same ones that come out here to ski and keep running into trees head first, what makes you think you can MTN bike any better. Grow up and live your life and leaves others alone. Think of it this way DA, if your enter a NORBA event and it was cancelled for a reasons and you paid your entry fees would you be crying to them? NOT... they would revoke your membership. Good decision Alex!!

Joel (2010-05-03)

Ibis

Columbia

------------------------------------------------------------ "you guys sound like a bunch of spoiled teenagers whose daddy just said no when you demanded a new BMW. " ------------------------------------------------------------ Your analogy demonstrates your obvious lack of understanding. You see, I was not asking Bikerpelli to give me something for free, but requesting I be refunded in partial for a trip that did not happen in which I paid for. I did not pay to play around in Moab. I came early and already paid for lodging, meals gas etc and rode the trails in Fruita and Moab. My simple question is why should Bikerpelli profit from a trip they failed to deliver? There are definately choices that can be made ahead of time that would prevent this situation from ever happening. ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Personally, after observing your rude, inconsiderate and unprofessional behavior, I am glad that you will not be joining us next year; I can't imagine that anything would satisfy you three.:" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Expressing my opinon is my right. I was not rude, inconsiderate or unprofessional in any way. Unlike the comments you made, which are very immature.

Your Welcome (2010-05-02)

Bikerpelli Ripoff

St. Louis

Your welcome. Because when we asked about all those things the answer was always no. Sounds like you need to thanks us because Alex was not planning to give you anything other then beer. Oh BTW we took the ride to Porcupine which Alex lied to us and said was closed. I guess he lied to us about everything. He said no to the RV camp. He said no to the organized rides. He said no to the showers. All we were told was no everything is canceled.

Whiners (2010-05-02)

Joel

COS

Ibis, MO, MoabMan and St. Louis - you guys sound like a bunch of spoiled teenagers whose daddy just said no when you demanded a new BMW. Grow up and realize that life happens. Alex runs a first class outfit. He provided everything he said he would, including a safe trip. We had a nice camp every night (including the RV/Camping resort with hot showers the last night), 3 great meals a day and riding. He organized various groups to head off in different directions. And MoabMan, yes, there were privies, too, so pretty much all of your rant is a lie. If you guys hadn't packed up in a huff and left like those spoiled teenagers, you would have seen all of this come together. Several people took the option to return and ride next week's event and of the 60 or so of us in camp, we had a great time and many will come back. Personally, after observing your rude, inconsiderate and unprofessional behavior, I am glad that you will not be joining us next year; I can't imagine that anything would satisfy you three. Oh, and I understand you weren't so put off by Bikerpelli that you couldn't accept a shuttle ride from them on Friday up at Slickrock....

great time (2010-05-02)

Michael Silver

Colorado Springs

Yes Alex cancelled the ride. That was the right decision. I am an Emergency physician and feel that we would have been risking riders lives from hypothermia. How many were prepared to spend the night if thier bike bogged down in the mud. I had a wonderful time in Moab in a fully supported remote campsite. Several rides were arranged by Alex and I logged approximately 100 miles on sweet single track. I made great friends, ate great food, rode great rides and drank plenty of beer. I have no heartache about what I paid for the trip.It was worth it. Yes I want to ride Kokepelli, but I want it to be safe and enjoyable. Alex offered all the riders to ride the second trip which he did not have to do. I will be there next year and if the weather sucks again I will ride in Moab supported by Alex. Great job by a very professional team. I'm sorry the previous posts did not stick around and enjoy themselves. Live in the moment not for the goal we all end up in the same place.

No bounce back yet... (2010-05-02)

Jon

COS

I just sent an email - haven't gotten anything saying it was undeliverable...

Contact Info (2010-05-02)

Trip #2 Rider

Littleton, CO

Tried to send them an email at the info.bikerpelli.... address, came back as undeliverable? Is it my email or is it down for everyone?

So, which is it? (2010-05-02)

John

CO

It was canceled and they left you abandoned in Moab or it was on and they played nude bike tag last night? Hard to tell what went down from these posts. I was there on Thursday and chose to leave. I don't care what the people saw on their AM ride on Thursday. Those trails were not going to be rideable. It took me 20 mins. to get the mud off my bike that was there just from a quick ride in the parking lot. There's a big difference between Mary's Loop and what you will find out in the open desert west of the Koko. loops. Those "4 hours of rideable weather" would have put us way the hell out when the weather turned for the worse. If they left you in the lurch in Moab with no plan, that's one thing. But to question not going out that morning is ridiculous and you don't know western Colorado riding. So, did the Bikerpelli people stick around in Moab with you or not?

Well... (2010-05-01)

Jon

COS

Pictures?

(2010-05-01)

Chris

Longmont

Nude bike tag. Bikerpelli has reached a new high. Good times!!!!

Hmmm (2010-05-01)

Ibis MO

Columbia, MO

I certainly understand the enormous responsibility behind making sure 90 riders are safe. I am not upset Alex cancelled the ride out of concerns for our safety. Why make us wait 4 hours, pack up all our gear, make us stand around, tell us not to ask questions you will provide us more information later, then cancel the trip? You should have called it at 7:00 AM. It was raining and snowing and had been all night. I also understand that a portion of the $435 was invested in non-perishable items and non-refundable equipment rental. But I took a 100% loss when the ride was cancelled. Bikerpelli took no loss at alll, except for future repeat business. I really expected a portion of my money refunded. What sense does it make for the company to not provide any of the services offered and keep all the profit? I rode the Kokopelli Trail last year and planned on doing it every year in the future with Bikerpelli. Unless something changes quickly, this is my last trip with this outfit. Companies do not always profit in the short run, but if they treat the customer fairly, they are typically successful in the long run. If you do not treat the customer fairly, you will not be around to make a profit in the future. Just a thought, but when collecting $39,150 from your customers, you might think about taking out trip insurance. I doubt you will get very many of the 90 folks to come back next year because of the way you went about handling your business and treating the customer. Such a shame, because this can be a very fun event.

Weather (2010-05-01)

Bill

Iowa

What's the weather like? We plan each trip around the optimum time to be in the area. Typically days in the 70's-80's & nites in the 40's-50's. Still, weather's about as predictable as a herd of cats, so plan for contingencies. We've seen 98 degree days, we've seen snow. Your gear list will reflect a temperature range for days & nites, as well as specific clothing you'll want. Not sure how you get "It is clearly stated in the registration that the trail will not be ridden under duress." from the above statement. Oh wait was there something he sent after he stole your $435 that said this and you could not get a refund.

Poor Planning (2010-05-01)

Steve

Denver

I was looking forward to riding. To bad these guys could not plan better. Like the other guy said the problem was the communication. When asked anything. You first got the deer in the headlight look then the "I do not know it is in planning" followed by "Hey the beer is flowing." Come on put the beer down and go to work. Why not ride the gravel roads around the bad spots? Oh wait you would not want to trash a road!

Longmont (2010-04-30)

Chris

Co

The chance you take pal. It is clearly stated in the registration that the trail will not be ridden under duress. If that trail gets trashed because of a poor decision tp send people out knowing the weather was serious this trip will never secure a future permit. It was only responsible. There's staff, food reservations for shuttle..blah blah blah. I personally am in Moab right now and hung by camp last night. I'd say there were more than a few happy campers gathered around two beautiful fires. Weather seems to be barely holding out but we've ridden three different trails by Friday evening and are having a blast. Looking forward to some bike joust tomorrow evening Porcupine from town daytime fun. Looks like trip two is going to get some sweet weather, enjoy my friends!!!!

What Now (2010-04-30)

MoabMan

Texas

Looking for a depndable outfit to support your Kokopelli adventure? Don't count on Bikerpelli. The owner changed the plan three times on Thursday then CANCELLED the event, without a plan to compensate in whole or part for the decision. During the four hour "delay" Thursday morning several folks rode the trails and found them rideable, but after returning to the meet spot heard Bikerpelli announce the event cacelled. After loading our equipment on to the trucks we were told to meet in Moab for a base camp experience. Don't believe it, their is no experience. Beer and $2 plates of pasta IS the experience. No suggestions for rides, NO shuttles to rides. NO plan for you the customer. For Saturday he said the camp ground, hot shower, awards and Bar-B-Que were also cancelled. There was not a "camp shower" or any "camp privies". "The event is cancelled" is the only answer we could get. NO Refund or back up plan, of any kind was offered or discussed. If you want to drive yourself to Moab to retrieve your gear, camp on BLM land, on your own, I presume the "on your own was added, because he may be required, but did not have the proper authorization to bring his commercial group there? If you want to recieve Peanut Butter, chips and fruit for lunch and pasta and salad for diner while the crew drinks beer then this trip is for you. BTW we did have a great three hour ride.. on our own while waiting for our duffle bags to arrive. We will be sure to post up on what we do on the next two beautiful days. Thanks Bikerpelli, MoabMan

buyer beware (2010-04-30)

bikerpelli ripoff

St Louis

Buyer beware. This is not a shuttle service or a guide service. They cancelled our trip this Thursday due to a brief snow at the start. While you are told to prepare for bad weather and pack accordingly, apparently these guys do not do that even though the rain was in the forecast for the last week. What was really nice was that they packed our bags on the truck and told us the trip was cancelled and to meet them in Moab. So we trusted new plans were in processes. This was after waiting 4 hours through ridable weather. Which we now because we met others on the trip who rode all of Mary's Loop while these folks were no where to be found. So now we jumped in the car and head to Moab. Show up at base camp at 6:30pm to find out no planning was done and told everything is cancelled. So we payed $435 to shuttle ourselves to Moab get no food, get no answers and no refund. This company is a joke. Thank God this did not happen on the second or third day, because these guys do not plan well and there is a good chance they would leave you in the middle of no where to fend for yourselves without your gear. Who cancels a trip and then takes your stuff 120 miles with no plan for you to ride at the new location when there are still three days left with nice weather? Answer Bikerpelli! I understand that weather is out our hands, but planning for it is not! I signed up for a shuttle and meals service, not a guided tour. You took my decision to ride away from me and then you took my stuff to Moab and did no planning the whole 6 or 7 hours. Nice! I think you owe some folks a refund! If we cancel you keep our money. Understood! If you cancel you keep our money and drive our stuff 120 miles away. Great business plan! A 12 year old boy or girl scout can plan better then these guys. BEWARE and pray for perfect weather.

SNOW (2010-04-29)

CW

Eagle CO

Snow. Lots of snow. No snow this winter. Train hard in gym all winter. Can't complete sentences. Crap.

(2010-04-28)

Chris

Co

One great day already- Wednesday. Tad windy maybe some snow 3 days of bliss!!!! Thanks mr Viking! We'll miss ya.

Hide-out (2010-04-28)

Ian

Alberta

Anyone know if it is possible to get a 2 wheel drive 15 passenger van sag wagon into Hide-out campground from the Onion Creek side? If not, is there camping opportunities in the Fisher Valley anywhere?

Weather (2010-04-27)

skiahh

COS

Thursday's not looking great at the moment. 55% chance rain/snow. Highs barely out of the 30s. Brrr.... Add your winter riding stuff to your bags!

Good Luck Everyone! (2010-04-27)

Biking Viking

Longmont, CO

I won't make it this year but NEXT year.... I hope you all have a lot of fun. Just follow Chris - he's the man! Also - Good luck Bill - I hope your NJ training pays off.

STOKED!` (2010-04-26)

Jon

COS

I'm even considering doing the 3 level of hell known as Yellow Jacket Canyon! Wait, the eye twitch came back. Maybe not...

Excited (2010-04-26)

Lady Dusack

Atlanta, GA

We are arriving in Fruita and going to hang out between there and Moab until Trip #2 starts. This is my first time. My training has been mediocre due to a pinched nerve in my shoulder but still riding 2-3 times a week. I am hoping the weather is lovely. We are looking fwd to mtg and riding w everyone!!

Trip one weather (2010-04-26)

Frank

Grand Junction

Chris, It look's like some cloudy weather for Wens. and Thurs. but so far the chance of rain is at 20%. The trails are dry even up at Westwater the first camp. It will probably look like rain but not do anything. Bring the rain jacket etc. just in case.

Chairs... (2010-04-23)

Jon

COS

@ Sandra - I've got a couple of spares, and there's a Safeway just across the highway from the hotel. Your call. It's nothing to throw them in the truck for you. How many do you need?

weather (2010-04-23)

Frank

Grand Junction, Colo.

Chris- I will see you and the other regulars at the start. The weather next Thurs. is predicted to be cloudy but it is too early to tell. The trails were quite dry in Moab so the little rain they had should not change this. My instinct tells me the conditions will be good. I am not riding the Pelli this year due to a little knee repair thats healing, but will be ready by summer.

Chairs (2010-04-23)

Sandra

Thanks Eric. I am on the first trip though so don't pack for me.

(2010-04-23)

Cgris

Co

Thanks Frank for the update. It's snowing here above 9000 also. Im staying optimistic for now until I see 100 % chance of something. See you at the starting line?

Fruita weather (2010-04-22)

Frank

Grand Junction, Colo

I just checked the trail condition's at the junction of the upper porc. trail and the lower porc. trail this wens. It was raining with snow pred. for the LaSals above 9000 ft. The trails were dry so the chance of snow by next week is slim. The weather in Moab was in the 70 to 80 range . The Kokopelli trail in Fruita was dry with a puddle or two which will be gone in a few day's. Unless a major storm hit's before next Thurs. the trail should be dry. However you alway's bring light rain gear for the Bikerpelli. I will give you an update before next Wens. The Porcupine trails are at the end of the ride and at about max. elevation for the trip.

Camp Chairs (2010-04-21)

Eric

Monument, CO

I have plenty of camp chairs you can use, as long as you're on the second week. If so, let me know and I'll throw them in the truck before I head that way. No charge.

camp chairs (2010-04-21)

Sandra

Can anybody tell me where we can rent/ buy some camp chairs in Fruita??

weather (2010-04-21)

Sandra Garnier

caribbean

Hey, I'm coming in from the Caribbean. How cold does it really get ?? Am I going to freeze my butt off?? Should I pack a bottle of coco rum to get us through the cold nights??

No jinxes! (2010-04-21)

Jon

COS

No rain. No mud. No snow. Only sunshine and mid-70's. There. I said it. If history is any indicator (at least on the first go), bring sunscreen and a down coat. You'll need both. Bring rain gear in your hydro pack - at some point you'll need it. You'll dry out as quickly as you got wet. I'm bringing toe booties, leg warmers and mid-weight gloves. Those will be in my sag bag. I'll have a rain cape in my hydro pack, and maybe some rain pants (if I can still get a cheap pair at Performance). If I've learned anything from '07 and '09, its this - you'll see every weather condition known, usually within 20 minutes of each one.

Weather? (2010-04-20)

Rider2626

Wheat Ridge,CO

Hey Guys! Any word on the trail condition and/or snow on the trail? Are we expecting mud-fest 2010? :)

Camel's Hump... (2010-04-20)

Jon

COS

I'd put as much as comfortable in your hydration pack - food, rain cape, sunscreen camera... Then I'd get a seat bag for a tube, some Co2 or pump (or both), and a mini-tool, maybe a light. Pack your seat bag so your tube doesn't rub against your mini-tool / pump thingie. It wold suck supremely to pull out your tube and find it rubbed raw! I personally would stay away from a rack - it's one more thing to break on the trail. I have seen a guy run a rack and make it through all right. I've also seen a guy have his rack break in the LaSal's, and everything had to be attached to his pack somehow. You'll just need the minimum stuff - no chain whips or bottom bracket tools. Those can go in your SAG bag. Alex has a pretty good selection of tools you'll have access to in camp.

Backpack vs Bike Rack (2010-04-19)

Eric

Monument, CO

I'm trying to figure out which is better, carrying everything on my back in a backpack, Camelback, etc., or putting it all in a bag on a bike rack. Any preferences?

Get ready, 'cause I'm comin... (2010-04-19)

Jon

COS

Hope everybody is training (you have a week, right?). Hope you've lubed your chains, changed your brake pads and changed your calfee / stans. The weather will be great ('cause I'm betting YOUR paycheck on it!)

New Yorkers (2010-04-13)

Joseph Brody

Campbell, CA

Are the chicks from New York City coming this year?

(2010-04-13)

Chris

Counting the days, working my tan, packing the down~

I 'aint skeered... (2010-04-11)

Jon Zanone?

COS

So how is this different from '07 & '09? I'm thinking Kokopelli is waiting to smite me...

Trail Conditions (2010-04-10)

Bikerpelli

Boulder, CO

If you want a laugh - and a scare - take a look at these two pics taken recently in the La Sal mtns. They got a little snow this week... www.bikerpelli.com/alex/SnowTrail1.JPG and www.bikerpelli.com/alex/SnowTrail2.JPG Don't worry, we're expecting melt-off by ride time.

Tire's and weather (2010-04-09)

Frank B.

Grand Junction, Colo.

I will jump into the discussion on tire's as I ride the Pelli trails often. I have ridden the Pelli both tube's and tubliss. They both work fine, however I find that tubliss give's you a little better ride . The rider's in the western slope usually run larger tires than other's with 2.2 to 2.35 being common. This is dependent on rider weight. In past year's with rain and some snow/sleet you could get by with narrower tires, but if its dry then go for the larger footprint. If you weigh 120 or less then forget this and run your normall stuff. If condition's are dry, which could be this year then plan on sand and loose rock. As to weather it just snowed in the La Sals but the temp's are climbing with 75deg. this coming week. I will be in Moab in a week and post what I see. Frank

Re:Tires and such (2010-04-01)

Mark B

Rochester, Mn

Thanks Jon for the tire info. I have been running Crossmarks and a Bontrager XDX tubeless for a couple of years with great results. The XDX's are somewhat beefier with same ride predictability? Never been to western CO but have had a this ride circled for a couple of years now since landing in Minnesota. This old hick from Maine and is kid look forward to this adventure and meeting you all. We are doing the 2nd ride. Happy training!

Tires & such... (2010-03-26)

Jon Zanone

COS

I did my first Koko on IRC Mythos and slime tubes. I did the second on Maxxis Crossmarks set up with Stan's. I didn't have any problems with either setup. The terrain is so varied, I don't know if there is a 'perfect' tread. Pick something sturdy, and run slime or go tubeless. Use the motel Alex has a discount at. It may be to late to get the discount, but it's right by the interstate and no more than 5-10 minutes from the Loma exit. I think it's a Super 8. If you don't have a motel yet, you'd better do it quick. The Fruita Fat Tire festival is the same week as the first go. My friend and I are camping at Highline this year...

tires and motels (2010-03-25)

cactus jack

acton,ca

What is the best tire for the KOKO and any suggestions for motels in Fruita or Grand

What's Up (2010-03-25)

Swiss Peter

Phoenix, AZ

What's up with this, this year ... such a lame crowd ... where are the spicy stories and challenges! Anybody up for doing this without the shuttles ... and include YellowJacket :-) on Day 2! We had enough el-nino here and trained more than last years share of mud during the last 4 weeks here in the desert! let's have some snow in the LaSal's!

pedal, pedal pedal - like a fat little pidgeon... (2010-03-22)

Jon Zanone

COS

Yeah, and I think I've ridden in everything Kokopelli can throw at me. Third time is a charm! BTW, does anyone else find it ironical 'Kokopelli' shows up as misspelled? Or maybe it's my computer... About a month to go. Hope everyone is getting some miles on their legs!

(2010-03-21)

Chris

Co

Being we are in an el niño pattern- early and late season moisture and hearing that the best skiing in Utah lies in the LaSals this year, I'd say there is potential for some weather or less than ideal conditions. But after doing this trail multiple times you could throw out any predictions and train for any circumstance including the worse case scenario- 2007.. And some 90+ degree weather with no clouds I only wonder if we will be able to climb into the LaSals if things don't warm up and melt... Good luck and don't worry about the weather, it's non productive to the fun that will be had!!

Prognosticators? (2010-03-20)

Jon Zanone

COS

Any of the western slope folks want to predict the weather for the trip? How has the winter been out there - snowy? Dry?

GPS Files and route profiles (2010-03-12)

skiahh

COS

Hi everyone. I've cobbled together some GPS tracks and profile pictures for our route - except the last section. if you'd like to download either, find me on mtbr.com or bikeforums.net with this name and send me a PM for the login/password. I'd have posted it here, but it seems the spammers have found this site.

Good Grief (2010-03-12)

skiahh

COS

Stupid spammers.

respond (2010-03-11)

YVETTEAyala35

Every body knows that humen's life is very expensive, nevertheless some people need cash for various stuff and not every person earns big sums money. So to get some credit loans or short term loan should be a right solution.

Post Kokopelli - White Rim May 12-14? (2010-03-08)

Eileen

Seattle, WA

Post Kokopelli, two of us have a permit to do the White Rim Trail in 2 nights, 3 days May 12-14. (The catch is that it will involve a 54 mile day). We have a support vehicle and driver but would like to reduce costs by including more people - up to 8. Any other Kokopelli riders interested in joining us? mtngrl007@gmail.com

Tubeless... (2010-03-07)

Jon

Colorado Springs

Definitely!

To Tube or Not 2 Tube? (2010-03-06)

Jesse

Petaluma, CA

Any thoughts on tube vs. tubeless on the Kokopelli?

I'm just kiddin'... (2010-02-28)

Jon

Colorado Springs

Let's save the weather drama for the second trip. All in favor? I'd be good with three weeks after the first trip as well...

2007 trip (2010-02-24)

Joe

I remember that ride, it was brutal. We rode up slippery mud roads, froze at night and woke up to 4 inches of snow. Fun stuff. I did not have any cold weather gear, needless to say I could not wait to get into the hotub in Moab. Great memory though.

HT vs FS (2010-02-24)

skiahh

CO Springs

I got a new 29er HT last summer and am planning on riding it this year on this ride (1st trip). My only concern is Porcupine Rim; didn't get to see it last year because of the thunderstorm. For those who have ridden HTs or even rigids, how are they on the PR trail?

(2010-02-23)

Chris

Yes Jon, that was the trip. Let's hope that weather holds off until the second trip. lol.

SS (2010-02-22)

Ken

CO

Rode a training ride with my bud Mike yesterday. The crazy things we do in 15 degree weather trying to make sure we don't get dropped!

SS (2010-02-20)

Jon

COS

Chris - if you are talking about first go, '07, I think I remember that lady. I tried hanging on her wheel during the wind/hail/lightling/rainstorm coming into Rabbit Valley sag. Kind of an echelon thing. I think she got tired of pulling me, and she left me in the dust. Or wind, as it were...

(2010-02-20)

chris

co

I will ride the 29 SS again. My inspiration for riding this trail on this bike was three years ago when this women was riding a 29ss up the big climb 2nd day and my buddy said she blew past him smiling (kudos)and he couldn't answer whatsoever. lol My buddy's quite fit so we had a great debate over this. I raised the brow then and took the plunge, almost never even looking at the 7K heap of shiny 26" bliss leaning against my wall till this day. I've ridden it (kokopelli) 32:18 and 32:19 and the 18 was most efficient, but I am training with a 17 currently and kind of liking it but wanting to see how some climbs up the big hills feel.(like tower road in horsetooth)... If your not used to doing big climbs on one gear (which still freaks me out occasionally, my mind constantly questioning wether I've chosen the right gear) start laying down some big mileage now so you can muster up the last hills in May.... I've left a few lungs over the years, but gained a few hearts...

Your Lung or Mine? (2010-02-19)

Jon

COS

Do it! There will be at least 2 lungs to choose from.

SS (2010-02-19)

Ken

CO

I'm on the fence about riding my SS 29er. Do you see many singlespeeds out on the trail? I don't want to leave a lung on the trail!

One gear, but which one??? (2010-02-19)

Jon Zanone

Colorado Springs

I've committed (or should be) to riding a 29er SS. Regardless of what you ride, you are gonna' walk - there's no avoiding it. My only worry at this point is the last day in the LaSals. I'll probably bring an extra cog and start slamming the fire road climbs around here. If you see a lung on the ground, it's probably mine.

(2010-02-17)

chris

Co

cactus jack. I'd say you could just about ride anything with two wheels down this trail. At some points it could be perfect, other times wishing you had something else. I have ridden a 29 front suspension SS on this trail twice. It's the only bike I ride these days. I wish for an extra gear at times but it always works out. Don't miss this ride... As far as camping before the ride. Rabbit valley is directly down the road and free. A great place to spend time beyond our quick ride through.

bike for koko trail (2010-02-17)

cactus jack

acton,ca

Thinking about doing this ride. Question is , I ride a29er -soft tail- 1 - 9. Do afair amount of riding, use to race x/c for years. Would the gearing and the soft tail be a problem? Thanks

Camping (2010-02-16)

Jon Zanone

CSprings, CO

Camping at the trailhead proper - no. It's a parking lot as I recall. You probably can't camp where we park. It's private property. But lots of camping close - Rd. 18, Rabbit Valley...

First Night Camp (2010-02-15)

Randy

Craig, CO

Is camping at the start of the trail permitted?

1st Tour (2010-02-11)

Phil Brown

Leland IL

I've done the trip for the last two years always the first one. I can't talk any of my team to come out this year, two were in over their heads and Elliot and myself rode together for the whole trip. I'm not registered yet. Last year I learned the best way to camp is to share a bigger tent rather than one small one. Anyone interested ?

2nd Trip... (2010-02-03)

Photopelli

Colorado Springs

Bill, I am on the 2nd trip this year. '09 was my first and at time on the trail last year, I swore it would be my last! I ride a week every summer in Ringwood state park when we go back and visit family. You folks have some fun riding back East. Keeps me sane when visiting the in-laws!

Trip #2 (2010-02-03)

Bill Goffredo

Mahwah, NJ

First trip in '08. This time without a broken wrist....

The Ride (2010-01-29)

Karl

Aurora, Co

Plan on another ride and looking forward to the View and oatmeal suprise!

Regy (2010-01-20)

Chris Goffredo

Longmont, Colorado

I've got 10 am in Longmont covered... again!

Come on February! (2009-12-20)

Jon

Colorado Springs, CO

Can't wait!

The Ride (2009-05-22)

Karl

Denver, Co

Like to thank the staff, Great Support, Even the oatmeal suprise! Meet and rode with a lot of cool people. The last day was hardest and best!

Pics from the 1st Trip (2009-05-18)

Photopelli

Colorado Springs, CO

Just some quick photos from my trip on the Kokopelli with some friends. http://picasaweb.google.com/stephen.thinair

Koko Trip II (2009-05-15)

Devora Peterson

Golden, CO

We had an awesome time. Thanks for all the hard work by everyone. It's always good to meet new friends on this trip. Has any one posted pictures or video's to share? That always make my day for the next couple of months at work ;-( Thank god for screen savers!

Of broken bones and broken hearts... (2009-05-13)

Jon

Colorado Springs, CO

For those on trip one, Erik is doing great. Well, as great as you can with a broken collarbone. He goes into surgery tomorrow, and plans to be riding in about 4 weeks. Meanwhile, I think he's roped me into sagging for him on a solo 'pelli ride in the fall, or riding around Pikes Peak at some point.

re: Pictures, 2009 ride 1 (2009-05-13)

B. I.

Eagle, CO

Jon: Thanks for sharing your pics! How is your buddy Eric holding up?

Trip 2 - weather (2009-05-12)

Susan A

Arvada, CO

The weather was great...a little windy during the second part of the first day. Alex, Brenda, Durango and the staff did an awesome job! Great food, good humor and fun trails! Thanks! The A's

Trip 2 (2009-05-11)

Joel

COS

Anyone hear how the second week's trip went?

Pictures, 2009 ride 1 (2009-05-08)

Jon

Colorado Springs, CO

Here's a link to some of the pix I took: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30415673&l=556e0a5243&id=1107432863 Jon

(2009-05-07)

Chris

Longmont

And now you know why I rode the singlespeed. After the '07 mess, I decided to take the plunge and haven't even rode that 27# geared overly pivoting contraption since! LOL trip 2 looks like the weather is awesome. Ours wasn't bad even with that short burst! Good luck and have a safe one!

Day 3 Weather (2009-05-06)

Photopelli

Colorado Springs

On day 3, we had rain, hail and lightning. We hit mud that was impassable - wheels wouldn't turn at all. We pushed the bikes and carried them for quite a while through the clay mud for what was literally hours. We stopped every 10ft it seemed like to clear the wheels. Finally got off the trail and cleaned the bike and then physically carried the bike while sliding down the trail on the mud. We cleared the first area and were able to ride for about .5 miles and then hit another nasty stretch of impassable clay mud. Carried the bike again down to Sand Flats Road so we could at least ride. Totally exhausting - broke the rear derailer hanger and bent my rear derailer. Fixed both on the trail with my buddies. Had to use my Cytomax to clear mud from the parts so we could see. Brakes were totally gone due to the mud and I rode Sand Flats road all the way down Flintstone style. (I took my bike to the shop today and the estimate to fix was $200 due to that dang mud!) We were covered and caked in wet and mud, but my best memories of the trip were made right there with my buddies - I wouldn't have traded it for the world at that point! Can't wait until next year!

KT (2009-05-06)

cipo

Boulder, CO

jumpastump: What was day 3 like? We tried to ride out of Rabbit Valley on Saturday but when the rain hit, we ran into the dreaded clay mud and wheels would not turn at all. Meaning a hasty retreat carrying our bikes. Did you hit any nasty mud on day 3?

(2009-05-04)

jumpastump

colorado springs

The first trip was blessed with great weather day 1&2 day 3 was wild with rain, hail, wind. Great food, great people and the crew was outstanding as usual

(2009-05-04)

Joe

How was the first trip? Weather? Trail conditions? Did anybody have a good time?

29or26 (2009-05-02)

Frank

Grand Junction

Bernd, A 29'r would be the perfect bike for this ride in my opinion. There are several sustained climbs but several do it on 29 single speed. Either one would work but there are a lot of open middle ring sections so the 29 would fly. Hope this isn't to late . Frank

(2009-04-30)

Chris

Lomo

From Bitter creek! 75 degrees. Trail is perfect, beer is delishhhh, food is going down fast! Guac;-)

looking for a ride on May 6th (2009-04-30)

cynthia

boulder, co

Looking to catch a ride to Fruita on May 6th. I live in Boulder... need room for 1 person, 1 bike, and big duffle bag. I will not need a ride back after the trip. cynthia

Good Luck, Have Fun (2009-04-29)

Biking Viking

Longmont, CO

To all y'all - Have fun looks like you will have fantastic weather - McLovin and I wish we could be there! Next year, Right?

Bicycle typ (2009-04-29)

Bernd Dietrich

Niederwerrn Germany

Thanks Frank for your reply. Yes I think a hybrid isn,t a good idea, but what about a 29er instead of a 26er. Would that do it? Bernd

hybrid (2009-04-28)

Frank

Grand Junction

A hybrid bike would not make it through the many sand and loose rock sections. You will see chat on tire size that gives a good clue to the trail sections. I weigh about 170lbs. and ride with 2.35 wide tires. You can get by with 2.1 tires especialy if you are light.

Hybrid (2009-04-28)

Bernd Dietrich

Niederwerrn

I've got a question, could the trail be done on hybrid or is that not adviseable. Bernd

(2009-04-25)

Chris

Allow me to curse the first trip, but the weather right now is looking absolutely perfect. 70 and sunny, no wind . ;-)

driving over from Denver (2009-04-24)

jim

Broomfield, CO

I'll be driving over Wed the 29th if anybody wants to ride together. Plan to leave in the morn and maybe get in a ride when I get there. Flexible on time. email jimlewis71 at yahoo dot com or call 303-909-6988 jim

(2009-04-23)

Chris

Look us up! We'll be camping there for a couple days before. White Vw golf and a white ford f250 with a camper on back. Zippety, joes ridge, chutes and ladders, and Kessel run are must do's. Park on main lot, cruise up road or prime cut, left goes to zip, joes, or kessel, right for chutes!

Local Trails (2009-04-23)

Daniel

Greensboro, NC

18th trails it is. Thanks Chris

(2009-04-21)

Chris

18 road in fruita. Don't miss these trails! The kokopelli loops and tebaguache area. Go to over the edge sports in fruita for a guide book or questions.

Good local trails (2009-04-21)

Daniel

Greensboro, NC

My buddy and I will be in the area a few days early to ride some of the local trails before the Kokopelli trails. We are staying in Grand Junction. We are hoping somebody could recommend some good trails to ride.

(2009-04-20)

Chris

See you then Frank. Thanks for the update! ;-)

First trip (2009-04-19)

Frank

Grand Junction

Chris, I plan on coming over and waving you off on trip one. I will bring blankets etc. in honer of the snow/rain pelli of a few years ago. The trails look to be in good shape, even the sand sections don't look bad this year. The LaSals are loaded with snow, but a few 80deg. days will take care of that. See you soon. Frank

(2009-04-19)

Chris

3+ on day one , 5 and change on day two and over 6000 on day three. All rideable with a handful of short hike a bikes. I'm hoping the wildflowers are popping this week and sunny days ahead. Rode today from no snow at my house to 18" @ 7000 and a gorgeous day.

Climbing... (2009-04-19)

Photopelli

The Springs

Here is a graph that may help you... http://www.bikerpelli.com/Kokopelli_Trail/images_main/Kokopelli_Trail_ElevationLg.jpg

climbing (2009-04-19)

jumpastump

colorado springs

Day-1 is not bad climbing moderate Day-2 after dewy bridge entrada bluff is a hard climb due to trail conditions, baby heads and loose gravel Day-3-17 miles of climb 1st thing in the morning overall there is lots of climbing easy/moderate to I want my mommy

elevation gain per day (2009-04-18)

may

san francisco, ca

hi all! i'm wondering if any of you know how much climbing we'll be doing each day. thanks!

(2009-04-18)

chris

Yeti has went from trail angel to river angel this year!

(2009-04-18)

jumpastump

colorado springs

Anybody know if "yeti / McClovin" is riding this year

(2009-04-17)

Chris

Thanks Frank, Will you be gracing us on the first trip start? This storm turned out to be quite the hype where I live but 20 miles west got 3 feet so far. Next week looks awesome- 75 and sunny here. A couple loose ends to tie up this week and I'm in the mode;-) Chris

I hate the trainer (2009-04-17)

skiahh

COS

30 mins was all I could take! I was just bored to tears!!

Fruita trails\ Grand Junction (2009-04-17)

frank

Grand Junction,Colo.

FYI The trails in the Fruita and Junction area are dry and rideable. The storms glanced by with only trace amounts of rain. I rode several of the Kokopelli trails and no mud. The parking lot was over half full so I guess Spring is here. Come on over and ride.

Fruita trails\ Grand Junction (2009-04-17)

frank

Grand Junction,Colo.

FYI The trails in the Fruita and Junction area are dry and rideable. The storms glanced by with only trace amounts of rain. I rode several of the Kokopelli trails and no mud. The parking lot was over half full so I guess Spring is here. Come on over and ride.

(2009-04-17)

Joe

What is up with this weather? I have yet to get on my bike in April? Happy training!!

Great, another weekend w/o a ride (2009-04-15)

skiahh

COS

Yet another spring storm... anywhere from 6 inches to 2 feet around here. Just hope it stops before the end of the month!

Bummer (2009-04-14)

skiahh

COS

I was looking forward to meeting the "freakishly tall girl"!

Changed Trips (2009-04-13)

Lynne

Jupiter, FL

I may not be able to make the first trip because of some work issues, so now I am aiming at the second. I hope y'all will get rid of all that snow before then ;-)

I got in 20 miles... (2009-04-12)

skiahh

COS

in the mountains this morning. In my new Jeep. Fun, but it doesn't help with being ready for Kokopelli!

colorado springs (2009-04-12)

jumpastump

I thought I was going to put in 20 miles in the mountains today...2" snow in the last hour

I really hope it stops snowing.... (2009-04-12)

skiahh

Colorado Springs, CO

before the end of the month. I mean, I like riding in the snow. As long as I can get a nice long hot shower and a warm bed afterwards. This weather in CO (at least the front range part) is just plain psycho!

La Sal Mtn Road (2009-04-10)

ChrisW

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=38.45789034424927&lon=-109.259033203125&site=gjt&smap=1&marine=0&unit=0&lg=en

(2009-04-09)

Chris

20 days ;-)

(2009-04-06)

greg Warnick

Lynn Look forward to hooking up Greg

(2009-04-05)

Chris

That's one expensive training ride! What's your training like for the Kokopelli?

Back of the Pack (2009-04-05)

Lynne Daniels

Jupiter FL

If you're cruising along at a relaxed pace, you'll be certain to see me, and I'll be happy to have company. You can't miss me -- I'm the freakishly tall gal on a blue bike. I'm traveling out there by myself and relying upon Bikerpelli Sports to introduce me to the other 89 people that think it is a good idea to ride bikes from Grand Junction to Fruita. lynne@waywardpoints.com

back of he pack (2009-04-05)

greg Warnick

mammoh Lakes

Greetings My wife is doing he April ride with 2 team mates as a training ride for the B.C. race I am looking to cruz at he back of he pack? 61 good shape positive attitude Anyone I could hook up with?????? Greg 760 8461425

(2009-04-05)

Chris

the weatherman blew two predictions of about 24" of snow on the front range! Good news!

Snow (2009-04-03)

CW

Eagle, CO

It's dumping snow in Eagle, CO. DUMPING.

(2009-03-27)

Joe

Arvada, CO

Just when I started to train we get 20 inches of snow. I should have trained in January when it was warm and dry. oh well......

(2009-03-25)

chris

Finally, some snow! Those 70 and sunny days were starting to get to me! ;-)

Wahoo! (2009-03-21)

Jon

Colorado Springs, CO

The new jerseys are here! The new jerseys are here!

(2009-03-17)

Chris

LOL

Training (2009-03-17)

Joe

Brush up? I have been an expert for years!

(2009-03-17)

chris

Happy St Pattys day. Time to brush up on the drinking part of the Kokopelli. Cheers

Bike Rentals (2009-03-10)

Frank

Grand Junction, Colo.

Dave , I ride in both Fruita and Moab areas. I have listened to the complaints of Pelli riders who have rented in the past. So, here is my opinion. My first choice would be Ruby Cyn. bikes in Grand Junction. Second would be single tracks in Fruita, and third would be Poison Spider bikes in Moab. I have friends who work at these shops and they provide quality bikes for rent. You need to be specific as to the level of rental you want, some are basic sus. bikes and some are high level such as Yeti , Specialized, Jamis, Trek. If you can arrive a day early so you can try the bike on the local trails. Good luck.

(2009-03-10)

chris

Bike rental

I like the bikes they rent in Moab more than my experiences with Fruita. I'll just say that I have never rented from Singletracks so they may be very good. Moab tends to have a nice selection of higher end bikes. If I needed to rent and had a car,I would come out a day early, make the trek to Moab to pick up a bike(1.5 hours) from Fruita and make a day of it , then show up @ Fruita for the Bikerpelli. Klondike bluffs or the Soveirgn trail on the way back from Moab(both on Hwy 191) would make a great easy ride to acclimate.

Rentals (2009-03-10)

Dave

Seattle

Anybody have experience with bike rentals? This is my first year doing Koko. The shipping costs to get my bike out there are about a wash with the rental rates I'm seeing out of Moab and Fruita.

Training (2009-03-08)

Fruita Frank

Grand Junction, Colo.

Hi Lynn, Training in Colorado in the winter is a hit or miss deal. My solution has been to go to a spin class 3 to 4 times a week. I am mainly a mountain biker and have considered spin classes as Roadie oriented in the past. You may have to try several diff. ones to find the right class and instructor but it is worth it. I now go with my wife at least 3 times a week and I really get a good work-out. Secondly I use a heart rate monitor which helps keep my efforts in the 85% range. The key to an easy Pelli ride is to not go above 85% of your max. except for a few tech/hill sections. This may or may not sound a bit techy but is not. It is very hard to push yourself when you ride alone or with a friend on your local trails. Give this a try, I know it works. Frank

Training (2009-03-04)

Don

Loveland, CO

Hi, Lynn, I rode it last year (second trip) for the first time at 57, and I wasn’t the oldest guy out there (nor the slowest). While I am fortunate being able to ride from my front door to some great intermediate technical trails in the Loveland/Fort Collins area, and I did a lot of riding in and around Rocky Mountain National Park (some serious elevations and climbs), what was most important for me for the Kokopelli Trail was knowing I was prepared to ride on and on and on for as long as it took: What’s around that next bend? Is this the final summit? With all that the trail has to offer vistas-wise, it’s well worth it. That’s not to say you won’t arrive in camp pretty beat, but the staff does such a great job, you don’t have much to do once you arrive in camp but kick back, and enjoy the great food and beer. Everybody is having such a great time it’s infectious, and the next morning you’ll be racing to get back in the saddle and onto the trail. I’ve sadly had to bail on the ride this year, but I’m already psyched for the 2010 sign-up! Wishing you all good weather and good riding.

kokopelli (2009-03-04)

jumpastump

colorado springs

Hey Lynn, This will be my 2nd koko. I rode the 1st ride last year. I'm 56 and I would tell you this. No matter how you train it's still a long hard ride.You will be very happy when you get to camp each night. I was so focused on riding last year that the trail itself and everything around me kinda just seemed like a blur. If I could offer one tip it would be to just enjoy this magical place, the people and the crew. keep peddaling and everything else falls into place. where is yeti Mclovin

(2009-03-04)

Chris

Longmont, Co

Lynne, your going to do just fine. Joe, only 2 rides, ouch! Btw, I've been running Panaracer Rampages tubeless(29"). No flats, great handling, 2.35s my second Kokopelli with this tire, first time tubeless.

Tires and Training (2009-03-03)

Lynne

Jupiter, FL

I've just ordered three more tires, so I will have a total of five now. We've had no rain - everything is sand, sand, sand. I'm gonna try WTB Exiwolfs until it rains, then use WTB Nano Raptors. I've done 3x50 mile off-road endurance rides since 1/1/09 and maybe 30 circuits ( over a period of some months) of the 3 mile Mt Trashmore trail with its whopping elevation change of 500ft per circuit. I have no idea how many road miles and commuting miles I've done. The Santos Spring Break Fat Tire Festival is coming up in a couple of weeks. I managed a four day weekend and plan to use that time to practice back to back to back long rides, living in a tent, and drinking beer. March 29th is a 6 hour charity race up and down the miserable hill at the dump. So with five new tires, and all this practice I should be fast.....not. Being a middle aged lady with mediocre bike-handling skills I am just hoping to be ready. I'm still doing the stairrmaster training just in case. If I can't ride it, I'll hike it.

Day 1 route (2009-03-03)

Peter

GJ

Does anyone know the day 1 route to the Kokopelli turnoff. i.e. Marys>Mack ridge>Troy>Lions or Marys>Troy>Lions?

(2009-03-03)

Joe

Arvada, CO

Thanks for the advice on the tires. I will give the panaracers a try. I was thinking about running the dart on the front. Any thoughts on that. I hope everyone's training is going well. I have only been on my bike twice this year. Have to get pedaling.....

Mo' mileage (2009-03-02)

Jon

Colorado Springs

So January and February were great here in the Front Range. I've got 315 miles under my belt since the first of the year. Hopefully, I'll get another 300 (at least) before the first ride.

panracer fire Xc tires (2009-02-26)

jim

Broomfield, CO

I've owned several sets of these tires. I started using them because they were inexpensive. But I liked the way they rode. They were reliable, lasted well (usually I change every year, so they made it a year). I thought the traction was good. I'm now riding tubeless, Specialized Controls. I like the tubeless setup, but I liked the panracers. I still have them one one of my bikes. I weigh about 155 and would run 40 lbs in the tires on a full suspension bike. Never had problems with flats. I thought it was a good value and good ride. I'll use them when I'm not running tubless for sure.

Tires (2009-02-26)

Joe

Arvada, CO

Just looking for your general feeling about the wear and traction? Value for the money those kinds of things. Thanks.

Panaracers Fire XC (2009-02-25)

PhotoPelli

Colorado Springs, CO

I have owned a pair. What are you specifically looking for? Just my two cents?

(2009-02-24)

Joe

Arvada, CO

Frank. Thanks for the advice on the tires I have heard good things about the small block 8s before. Entrada bluffs was a tough climb, if I rememeber right it seemed like a harder climb than day 3. Not as long but a whole lot steeper, but the down hill from the top is worth it. Happy training.

Entrada climb (2009-02-24)

Frank

Grand Junction

I have done the Entrada climb several times and it is tough. My reservation with this climb is the heat. The first year we rode it it was close to 90 deg. and it was almost a show stopper. My fav. option if it is hot is to take the 1/2 way shuttle that Alex has provided in the past. The last part is interesting where it splits away from the road and follows down the cyn.

29 tires (2009-02-24)

Frank G.J.

Grand Junction

My 29'r came with a Kenda small block 8 on the back and I am quite happy with it. It is a 2.1 which is normally to narrow for me but with the 29 grip it is doing well. The front is a Kenda Nevagal 2.2 and it is great. I could go for less rolling resistance in the front but deciced the grip is nice to have. With my regular bike I run a small block 8-2.35 back and any decent turning 2.35 tire in the front. I hope this helps. Frank

09 - Out (2009-02-23)

Biking Viking

Longmont

The BV is out. Have fun to all y'all.

Tires (2009-02-21)

Joe

Arvada, CO

Does anybody have any experience with running Panaracers Fire XC. I have read good things about them online but have never owned a set.

Jupiter Questions (2009-02-17)

GJophite

GJ, America

Lynne, if I were you I would stay away from the Mavic scene, they have performed horribly for me. I am quite a bit heavier than you and bought their "bombproof" deetraks for daily use, and I tortched the hub three times, they did replace it each time as per warranty, but I finally gave up and went DT, and I will never go back. I would recommend something from DT Swiss, their rachet drive stands up to the abuse of anyone. On the hill front, you need to find an expresso fitness trainer at a gym. At first it seems kooky, like a video game, but once you hit the simulated hills on the expert levels, it feels like a day three climb into the La Salles.

29er Tires and a Training Question (2009-02-17)

Lynne

Jupiter Florida

I replaced the tires on my 29er after signing up for this trip. I had old thin tires with multiple small embedded thorns. I upgraded to tires with tread and no thorns. I have been very happy with them. ;-) I weigh 187, so I think next I will upgrade the wheels. I'm thinking Mavics because I've heard they are the strongest, but am interested in any suggestions. I've been using the singletrack that winds up and down the fake hill at the dump here in flat Florida for practice, but it is very short and very steep. I want to find a way to train for long climbs. Could riding a trainer at the gym at high resistance substitute for practicing on a real hill, or what about road riding uncomfortably fast into a headwind in a big gear? Would either of those be good sustitutes? Any other ideas?

29er tire recommendation (2009-02-17)

Glen Jones

Madison, WI

Fruita Frank...I read you are riding a 29er this year. Seeing that you are a seasoned veteran of this ride and I am a first timer, I was wondering what tires you are planning to use or would recommend I get for my suspension fork 29er hardtail? I weigh 175 pounds.

(2009-02-14)

Chris

News flash, Matrimony Spring located at the intersection of 191 and the river road is now closed permanently due to higher readings of organic matter that is simply impossible to correct. This is the spring on your left about 500 ft or so from the intersection by our final camping at the RV park on the river road. I don't think anyone has needs for water at that point but it is a well known spring for filling up for camping excursions, big porcupine loop, etc... There is a new water source in lions park (I believe the park across the street) by the toilets (a spigot) that will now be city water, not spring. Bummer, I always took that water home in my pack and reveled in the thought on my next ride of how lucky I was to drink that magical Moab spring water. Radioactive isotopes, parasites and all! Cheers

(2009-02-13)

chris

The only times I've avoided Entrada was because of lightning. If it's really hot, I'm doing Onion Creek. There's a few decisions to be made at the Dewey Bridge. Best bet is to get there a little earlier if the weather looks like something could be brewing by avoiding Yellow Jacket canyon(great ride). Us front rangers have been privied to the best winter ever for riding.

Shuttles (2009-02-13)

Biking Viking

Longmont

I'm hoping to ride the whole thing this year. My good buddy Chris did it. So I'm hoping to be in good enough shape, too. I hope everyone is training...

entrada bluffs (2009-02-13)

jumpastump

colorado springs

The climb up entrada bluffs can choke the bold but the ride is worth the work.

Ride packet (2009-02-13)

Jon

Colorado Springs, CO

Jim - The last page has a ride schedule, and on day 2, it lists either the shuttle or Entrada Bluffs. I remember coming over Dewey bridge (I was the last one in the shuttle) and being so happy I didn't have to pedal for a while. I got to Cottonwood Canyon, got on my bike and climbed through wind and wet creek crossings (rumour had it there were 19 - the map says 26...) As the climb got steeper, and the weather got worse, I was totally demoralized. As I got closer to camp, I remember hearing the cowbells as other riders came in, and thinking I didn't care if it was a camp full of mass-murdering cannibals - I was going to sit by a fire.... Anyways, if I can avoid that experience I will. Even if it means climbing Entrada. I hope to get over my hillphobia so it won't be an issue... Jon

trail info (2009-02-12)

Jim Lewis

Broomfield, CO

Thanks Jon, I got the info packet, but I didn't see any specific info in there about Entrada Bluffs Rd, OR riding Cottonwood Canyon, etc. No big deal. Thanks for the pointer. jim

Registration Package (2009-02-11)

Jon

Colorado Springs

Here's the link to the package... http://www.bikerpelli.com/Kokopelli_Trail/2009%20Kokopelli%20Trail%20info.pdf Jon

re: Registration Package (2009-02-11)

Jon

Colorado Springs

I got an email with the .pdf attached right after my registration. I got a friend who didn't get one either. I'm assuming (?) it got messed up along with the active.com mess? Jon

registration packet?? (2009-02-11)

Jim Lewis

Broomfield, CO

Jon, you indicated in your post you were reading the "registration package". What registration package did you get that had the specific trail info you mentioned? I haven't received anything that had any real details like this. Thanks! jim Jon's post below. Cottonwood Canyon? (2009-01-21) Jon Colorado Springs CO So, I'm reading the registration package. The ride schedule says you can either ride Entrada Bluffs Rd, OR you can ride Cottonwood Canyon road and eliminate 1000' or climbing... ..........

Thanks (2009-02-10)

Joe

Arvada, CO

Thanks Frank for the good advice. I am looking forward to another 3 days in the desert. See you out there. Happy training. Remember 6 hours of climbing...........

solo ride (2009-02-06)

Frank Breckenridge

Grand Junction

Joe, I have done the bikerpelli several times, both with and without a partner and the riding seems to fall into groups of similiar riding styles or energy levels. I have had as much fun talking with new riders as well as old friends. The support and help you will get is amazing. I will be on the second ride, see you there. Fruita Frank

Riding Solo (2009-02-04)

Joe

Arvada, CO

Hello all. I have ridden this 3 times and it is always a great time. I am thinking about signing up for the second trip as my riding buddies do not want to do it this year. Anybody going on the second trip solo and wouldn't mind a slow 200 plus biker by there side?

(2009-01-21)

Chris

Longmont, Co

Both canyons go into camp. Up the Bluffs rd can be relentless climbing and steep loose surface that is rewarded by a superbly technical masterpiece downhill. Then you will roll up and down after rose hill garden and finally coast into camp (it could maim you should you try to clean it, but it's been done by the most unlikely people and is truly rewarding). When you opt to do the creek crossings you will climb in to camp, see some nice flowers and rock formations, splash and splish, but it's still a climb. If it's hot, the creek might be the ticket. A building storm might also send you up Onion creek.

Cottonwood Canyon? (2009-01-21)

Jon

Colorado Springs CO

So, I'm reading the registration package. The ride schedule says you can either ride Entrada Bluffs Rd, OR you can ride Cottonwood Canyon road and eliminate 1000' or climbing... Having been one of the unfortunate souls who climbed through 26 wet creek crossings on Cottonwood in '07, I'm wondering what the difference is? You climb into camp either way, right? Can somone 'splain it, please?

(2009-01-20)

Chris

Lumpy ridge in Estes park, the backdrop of huge rock formations is a really nice place to hike that is easily accessible and has beautiful hikes, particularly the Gem lake trail. + you'll get some secondary altitude acclimation at 8000ft or you can stroll down the valley under those towering cliffs heading toward RMNP. Great pictures also as it is shadowed by the huge mountains of RMNP. If you go to Boulder just head straight up to Chataqua park off baseline to experience what Boulder has to offer and hit the mesa trail that heads up to the Flatirons, more huge rock outcroppings on the west end of town, the foothills of the rockies. There is much riding to do around Boulder but not a lot in the trails proper in town. Hall ranch just north of town is a favorite with the new Picture Rock connector trail and I also like Centennial Cone by Golden which is a non technical cruiser in a nice setting. Too many to list

Lynne----before the ride (2009-01-19)

Gary Peterson

Golden, CO

If you are looking for some fun place to park yourself for a few days, check a B&B or some location in Golden, CO. It is a real "small" town of 19,000 people and is only 20 minutes from downtown Denver, new art museum, shopping and dining. It's county (JEFFCO) trail system was recognized as the best in the US in 2005. There is hiking, dirt biking, road riding, spectacular views all within literally minutes of the real downtown. Boulder and Rocky Mtn Natl Park are within EZ driving if you want to check out those diversions. Boulder has hiking but has closed almost all their dirt trails to bikers. My wife and I will be doing this trip (2nd trip dates) for the second year and our 3rd time in the last 3 years. It is fun and not very technically challenging --- other than a portion of the first and last days.

Skiing (2009-01-19)

Lynne

Jupiter FL

We have waterskiing only. It is very flat here. I am really looking forward to travelling to CO and UT on my vacation. I plan to get out there a couple days early to get used to the altitude. Does anyone have any suggestions on nice places to sightsee or maybe hike just a little? I was looking at Estes Park and Boulder for places to relax and save energy for the big ride.

Retract GJ Crew (2009-01-19)

James

GJ

Wow, didn't know that the "crew" comment would stir up the natives. We had 8 of us from GJ last year on Trip 1. Not a crew, but 10% of the group. Good luck this year, it's fun, don't take it too serious.

(2009-01-19)

Chris

Longmont

But we can ski at 14,000 feet on the same day:-'

Longmont's Weather (2009-01-18)

Lynne

Jupiter, Florida

60 degrees -- how awful. It has been sunny and well into the 70's here ;-)

(2009-01-16)

Chris trip 1

Longmont

Hello all, I'm excited to be rolling this trail yet again, The Dream Ride. Hey BV, I see your all amped up already.. Great. Too bad Cpt.6pk is frozen like an iceberg up there in Fargo, I'll be thinking about him as we ride every day this week here plagued by 60 degree and sunny weather. My brother to in Joisey. Frank, It's great to hear your going again also, via trip 2. I love my 29er. The greatest trail machine owned yet. Single speed is nice too especially since theres no maint trailside when it gets dire out there like 07 and it just smooths out the terrain beautifully rolling everything techy and carving corners hard. My Maverick has proved to be a local only bike as I've had many fine tweakings constantly and has proven unreliable for big rides like this. The maverick is the bomb when it all comes together but it's left a sour after taste. Please do visit at the trailhead again this year before the ride or maybe the traditional pre ride connect. Newbies fret not, if you've read and live by the training manual you'll be fine. No gps needed either, Columbus never had one and he made it to the finish line and their wasn't even trail markers every 1/2 mile and at every intersection. Just enjoy the ride and scenery and the deafening silence, sand and slickrock, pinion and wildflowers. Try to climb the big hills, get a riding partner or stick with a group and don't make a race out of it either, you just might miss what the desert has to offer. Riding fast is fun too. Oh yes, pray for good weather because when it gets bad, the desert dishes it as good as any if not better. The people who run the trip, Alex, Brenda and crew eloquently present the trip and create a wonderful support system through encouragement and knowledge of this area. You are in great hands, but they can't ride the ride for you. You need to believe in yourself if it gets tough. Stay hydrated and eat plenty, encourage others, keep smiling, pitch in at camp. See ya out there!

Front Ranger and member of Chris' posse (2009-01-14)

Biking Viking

The front rangers are riding again. But not captain six pack. I doubt he will have been thawed out enough to make it. He' s in Fargo and it's pretty darn cold up there right now.

Bikerpelli 09Grand (2009-01-14)

Frank Breckenridge

Grand Junction

Hey Chris and the Front Rangers, Are you riding this year and which trip? I plan on doing trip 2 and actually plan on doing my training this year. Last year I shirked and it was not pretty. In any case I plan to ride a new 29 'r I picked up. I recall you rode one last year and I am curious as to your thought's on the 29 compared to your regular ride. The local trails in G.J. are perfect for skyiing and the best rides are in Moab or Arizona where I am now. Hope to see you this year Fruita Frank can

Kokopelli Google Earth file (2009-01-14)

Jon

Colorado Springs, CO

Hey all - I thought I'd post the link to the files section of the yahoo site. It doesn't seem to get used as much now, but it's got a gps file, a google earth file, and a movie clip of some guy named Alex falling off his bike... :) You'll understand when you play stupid bikes games in Moab! Jon http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bikerpelli/files/

GJ trails (2009-01-13)

GJ Ride Monkey

GJ, America

The trails are riding best at daybreak... otherwise soggy and snowy. Once the ground thaws alot is impassable. was warm today so who knows may get better. Moab is snow free...

(2009-01-13)

front ranger

fr

How's the trails in GJ right now. 1/13 Thanks

GJ (2009-01-10)

GJ What??

GJ, CO

What is this dude talking about I live in GJ too, and there is no owner...

GJ CREW???? (2009-01-10)

GJGJGJGJGJ

GJ, America

What Crew? I own GJ what are you talking about? I was on trip 2 last year and met not a soul from the Junc... But those trip one guys were cool I heard.

Not Going (2009-01-09)

James

Grand Junction CO

A person would think that anyone who could pen such a long post would at least get part of it right. The Grand Junction group from last years Trip 1 is not going. Hope that all of you have a great ride, and warm weather.

Tips, etc (2009-01-09)

James

Grand Junction CO

The GJ crew is going this year, we're going to spend the weekend after down in Moab, but I'm watching the chat and wanted to offer my 2 cents worth. Weather last year (trip 1), was cold. Pack a warm vest, tights, and some wind pants or shells for your legs and upper body. I carried shell for the descents. Camp was cold, bring something warm. I eyed those with down coats with envy. You can always leave it in the duffel back if it warms up. I used a 2.3 Eskar (front) and a 2.0 Caption on the rear. Tubeless with Stan's. I don't recommend the new Specialized tires, both blew out after this trip. Go fat in front, lighter and easier to spin on the back, these are long days. Low pressure helps climb up to top of the world on day 2. Tubeless is the way to go. We trained on road & MTB, but long climbs are the challenge. Ride big hills regularly. Some of the guys I was with wore tight shorts (roadie) and then MTB shorts (two chamois). I didn't think of that. Bring food, according to the heart rate monitor, burned 12,500 calories last year. Most of all have fun, I'll do it again.

Howdy folks... (2009-01-08)

Photopelli

Colorado Spring, CO

Will there be an AED and Oxygen available to the old folks? Signed up yesterday and diagnosed today with Pneumonia. It'll be a couple of weeks before I can get training. For you any of past riders, any advice secrets are greatly appreciated!

GPS route files? (2009-01-08)

skiahh

CO Springs

OK, so the email I just got (1st trip, 1st time on the trail) says maps are essential. I don't doubt that, but are there any GPS files to load into your GPS? I have a Delorme PN-20 that I plan to have with me and I'd like to be able to load up the route. Thanks. Looking forward to meeting everyone!

Carpooling... (2009-01-08)

Jon Zanone

Colorado Springs

RkyMtnHiGuy - I'll be going out for the first ride - I've got room for another... Jon

Ride 1 conditions (2009-01-08)

BV

Longmont, CO

Conditions were great. Cool in the AM and warmish in the PM. The trails were in great condition. We had rain in the early AM on day 1, but things cleared out by ride time. The trails were tacky. The Kokopelli trails in fruita have good drainage so things dried quickly. I don't remember any mud. The closer we got to Moab the drier things became. Up high, in the La Salles it was sort of wet and chilly. In all my pictures I'm wearing my jacket so I'm thinking I was chilled. Anyway it was good riding. Unlike first ride 07. Mud fest.

Hi everyone... (2009-01-08)

JohnT

Westminster, CO

This will be my first Kokopelli ride as well. Training has begun in earnest. Just out of curiosity, what kind of weather did you have on ride 1 last year and how did it effect the trail surfaces and how much you could ride sections vs walking?

Maah Daah Hey (2009-01-08)

Lynne

Jupiter FL

I rode it in early July. I didn't notice any mosquitos, but living in Florida, I may have just become used to them. I enjoyed it a lot -- there's some photos at www.waywardpoints.com

Mah-Da-Hey (2009-01-08)

Biking Viking

CO

Lynne, How was the Mah-Da-Hey? My brother - Yetti-Mclovin - and I are thinking about riding it next fall (after the Mosquitos go away).

Training (2009-01-08)

Lynne

Jupiter, FL

Here in South Florida, there is only one hill. We made singletrack up and down and up and down the side of a capped landfill. I figure I'll be riding that a lot. I'm also signed up for 3 50 mile off-road rides in the next six weeks. I'll find some century road rides or triathlons after that to keep me working. Just in case, I'll implement a prior training technique I successfully used to prepare for riding the Maah Daah Hey and the White Rim -- hours on the Stairmaster, so I can walk uphill while pushing a bike for miles and miles. It is always good to have a plan B.

Training n Tires (2009-01-07)

Biking Viking

I've ridden WTB Weirwolves 2.35's the past three times. They've worked really well for me. I'll be riding them again this year. Training: I wasn't able to log the 1/2 day and full day rides Alex suggests due to dad duties, work duties, life duties, etc. Anyway I started running in January. I worked my way from running 6 miles a week in January to 32 miles a week in March/April. Monday I lifted weights, Tuesdays I ran, Wednesdays i used as a midweek day off or a make up day or if I was feeling spry I hit a spin class, Thursday I ran and Friday I either went to happy hour or hit the weights (legs). Saturday I usually took the day off (especially after multiple happy hours) or went for a mtb ride. Sundays were usually the day I tried to schedule the longer rides. Anyway long story short Cardio is key, weights and core work will help your stability.

tires / training (2009-01-07)

jumpastump

colorado springs

I rolled on specialized eskar 26x2.30 no problems. You are going to have every kind of terrain there is. If it's real muddy you will be hoofin' it Rampart Range Road from Garden of the Gods to the shooting range and past is simlar to some KoKo hills

Kokopelli as I say it, part 1... (2009-01-07)

videopelli

Colorado Springs

Find a hill. The biggest hill you can. Ride it. When you get to the top, turn around, and ride it again. Do that until you cry. Or puke. Or both. Do that every other day. On the days you don't ride your hill, ride as far as you can. On Sunday, drink some beer. Of course I kid. Sort of. Alex will send out a training plan. It really boils down to ride, ride ride. Before and during. Jon

Colorado Springs Riders (2009-01-07)

RkyMtHiGuy

Colorado Springs, CO

Hi, I just signed up for my first Kokopelli, I will be riding the first ride, who are the other Springs Riders, and who might be interested in carpooling?

Tires? (2009-01-07)

GJ a GO GO

GJ, America

You need the kind that are rubber... hahaha. Any tires work, wide is great in the sand!

First Ride 2009 (2009-01-07)

Lynne

Jupiter, FL

I got in. I feel happy and frightened. What kind of tires should I use?

1st Ride (2009-01-07)

Biking Viking

Longmont CO

Lets hear it for the first ride! I concur with Videopelli, 1st ride 07 was one a toughy.

I'm in! (2009-01-07)

videopelli

Colorado Springs, CO

Let's hope for better weather than the last time I went (first go, 2007). I'd like to ride over the mountain this time.

Got in easier than last year! (2009-01-07)

GJREADYTORIDE

GJ, Earth

Yo Gabba Gabba in to win can't wait...

kopelli 1 (2009-01-07)

jumpastump

colorado springs, co

yabba dabba do

This year - 2009 (2009-01-05)

Biking Viking

Longmont, CO

I've resolved not to dominate this forum. Hopefully others will be motivated to chime in, beat their chests, and motivate others.

09 (2009-01-04)

Biking Viking

Largemart, CO

I'm hoping to be there. Will be on the wait list. For the first ride.

(2008-12-18)

Strokeapellier

Hugenotnot

Captain 6 pack is dead. General Obama Trauma is in the house, weak as a mouse, ready to ride the wimpy stride in '09.

Back for More! (2008-12-14)

Billy G from NJ

Mahwah, NJ

Coming back for another go at it...the question is...will Captain 6-Pack make another appearance. Where are the Fargo boys, eh?

Registration for '09 (2008-12-09)

Bikerpelli

Boulder

It's official, registration starts on Wednesday, Jan 7th at 10 am Colorado time. That's 9 on the left coast, noon on the east coast if you don't know already. Wake-up calls will go out around New Year's & again on Jan 6th. Have a great holiday, see you soon!

cool pics (2008-06-13)

david dickey

denver co

jason yoo awesome pics!! thanks for sharing and being able to re-live the experience!!

My pix posted (2008-05-23)

Jason Yoo

Sunnyvale, CA

My pix are posted in: http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0Ubt27Zu3YuzA I don't have all the names/emails of people in my pix, so check out if you think I took your pix. Jason

pix (2008-05-19)

Jason Yoo

Sunnyvale, CA

I did not post my pictures yet, but Ryan (2nd group) sent me a link of his pictures/videos, and I don't think he would mind sharing with others. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanstrive/collections/72157605033298160/

Photos (2008-05-12)

Devora Peterson

Golden, CO

I didn't take any pictures!!! If any one posts some photos somewhere, I would like to look at them!!

Capes (2008-05-06)

Biking Viking

That's funny.

Capt. Six Pack (2008-05-06)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Hero-mont, CO

Some say he's a mythical super-hero only living in the La Sal's and is propelled by excess guadalajara derived flatulence - some may attest to this as well!!! but for those of you who may have seen the Captain racing down to the Fisher Valley Camp - my condolences to you for the damage he may have done to your olfactory system!!! . . . . Until next year - - Just remember only short Cape's are good for Mountain Biking!!! Those long super-man style capes tend to get stuck in your deraileur, chain - that's why super-man doesn't ride a bike!!!

Who was that helmeted man... (2008-05-05)

Jersey Billy G

Mahwah, NJ

Oh yeah...who was that Captain 6-Pack guy anyway... :) He fixed chains, adjusted brakes and entertained all the way...the kinda superhero this ride needs....LOL...

An honor... (2008-05-05)

Jersey Billy G

Mahwah, NJ

Scott, Mike, Ryan & Chris (Yeah, my brother on the singlespeed - for those of you he passed on that hill Day 2) - It was my honor to try and keep up with you guys...you all rock!!!! Next time we get masks :) Will that hill ever end??? Back home in Jersey and ready to do it again...

Extra-Singletrack (2008-05-05)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Back home-mont!!

Recommendations: If you wanna do extra singletrack in addition to making SAG you better 1) Get Up Early 2) Bring a compass 3) BRING MAPS - they show all the single track in the area that you "could" concern yourself with, 4) Bring as many replaceable parts (THINK CHAIN LINKS, derailuer hangers, lube - that type of stuff), 5) Crank brothers multi-19 tool (you won't be unhappy with it), 6) KEY - REALLY understand how to fuel and recover yourself well each day 7) carry a good first-aide kit, 8) Be prepared to ride-into SAG and camp on the later side of the day which translates into carry'ing extra water/energy drink & food in your pack, on your bike, in your shorts, and 9) carry your own or your friends charged cell phone turned off - so you can call for help - if you get in over your head, 10) NEVER RIDE THE NON-KOKOPELLI's SINGLETRACK ALONE or if your not sure where your going to end up because your basically guarantee'ing that your going to get yourself lost and/or hurt or worse and ultimately left behind!!!!!! Alex will describe that to you.

1st Trip Riders - Tips? (2008-05-05)

Matt

Ashburn, VA

Hope you guys on the 1st trip had a blast. Counting the minutes till I get out there. Any tips from you guys on what to bring, what not to miss, extra singletrack excursions, etc?

First Trip weather (2008-05-05)

Wheels

Arvada, CO

Good to hear that there was no rain this year! Keep your fingers crossed second trip as we want it hot and dry(but not too hot). So what kind of beer are we getting this year? ;-)

Good times (2008-05-05)

Biking Viking

Lots of fun, lots of sun, and lots of miles. Don't miss the Upper Porcupine Singletrack - UPS! Super fun and super exposure! Have loads of fun Second riders!

Let us know how it goes (2008-04-29)

GJ4Life

GJ, CO

All you first ride fanatics let us know how the 'pelli treats you when you get done.

On the road again (2008-04-29)

Viking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

On the trail again, just can't wait to get on the trail again, the life I love is ridin' singletrack with my friends - oh I just can't wait to get on the trail again. The Longmont crew is packing it up today and heading out early tomorrow. We're hoping to be in Fruita early afternoon. We're planning to go out to 18 Road for a ride. If you're interested in joining us meet at the Aspen Street Coffee shop around 2p. After riding the tradition is to hit Guadalajara for a pre-ride feast. This feast should fulfill the burrito requirement talked about in the ride chat. See you all tomorrow!

Jet-Fuel (2008-04-28)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Wooooosh-mont

Yeeeesh, now that'd be some propulsion Hoss!!! What was that like an 8 hour Fruita to Moab on that ride? ;o)

Burritos... (2008-04-27)

Hoss

CS CO

Yo Yeti... I tried the bean burrito idea once....blew a hole through a new pair of Pearls..:) Need something a little less potent...

Beef on trail (2008-04-27)

Hoss

CS CO

Hopefully it won't be dead beef with vultures circling...

Hoss (2008-04-27)

GJFRONTIERSMAN

GJ CO

wohooo nice to hear there will be some other beef on the trail. Did the hare ever really win a race?

Camping Wed. (2008-04-25)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Camp-Pelli-mont

Hey all, we'll be the dirt-bag mtn. bikers camped out in the JAMES M. ROBB-COLORADO RIVER STATE PARK, FRUITA SECTION on Wed. Night so we can bike to guadalajara-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa - prior to the Pelli start - anyone else kicking back at the campground. We'll probably find some breakfast in Fruita on Thurs. A.M. as well prior to starting the Pelli - anyone up for green eggs and ham early Thurs???

Jet-Fuel (2008-04-25)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Fueling-Mont

Hey, Two words Hoss . . Bean . . . Burrito!!

Mitchell (2008-04-25)

Hoss

Colorado

150lbs…a good breeze from the Northeast and you won’t even have to peddle to Moab .. myself on the other hand could have a 40 mph wind behind me going downhill and I will still have to peddle. Slow for me is good…I was passed by a jogger going up hill the other day… Hope to hook up… Hoss

Weather (2008-04-24)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Pelli-montonia

RAIN RAIN STAY AWAY . . . MOVE BACK ... ONE MORE DAY!! . . www.weather.com.

Hoss (2008-04-24)

Mitchell

Golden. CO

Hey Hoss. Have no worries. I'm not quite 320 pounds (150 wet), but I am dirt slow. We'll hang. I'll be the guy with the camera on my head and a 30 pound pack (first aid gear - I never leave home without it).

Rain (2008-04-23)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Weather-Mont

Rain, Rain, Go Away, Come Back . .. . . on the 15th of MAY!!!

May 8th ride (2008-04-23)

Hoss

Colorado

Hoss in Colorado May 8th ride… Looking for like minded individuals to ride with..this is vacation. It looks like I will be on the trail at 310 lbs, me, bike, gear & water.. I have lost over 30lbs training, but still feel I will be doing 6-8 hour days. Thankfully there will be 14 hours of daylight..:)

Re: Conditions (2008-04-22)

Viking

As of March 30th there was A LOT of snow way up high. I think Porcupine Rim was clear of snow. You might want to shoot the Poison Spider folks an email. Of course - Alex was just there.... rjk

Rain Gear? (2008-04-22)

Viking

Soggy-mont, CO

Rain Gear???? The 10 day shows rain on May 1 - May day, May day, May day.

Conditions? (2008-04-22)

Mark

SLC, UT

Does anyone know the present snow conditions in the LaSals (just the kokopelli trail part) and Porcupine Rim Trail?

Packing (2008-04-21)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Longmont, CO

All I got left to purchase is a pack of Juicy Fruit!!!

1 week baby! (2008-04-21)

Viking

Longmont, CO

One week baby! Oh yeah. I've started making the tune-up list and getting the rig koko-fied. Also started laying out my gear and making my shopping list. I have one quick training question. Are we supposed to stop training 7 days in advance or is it something like 3? Also, I'm willing to make a reservation at Guadalajara in Fruita if folks would like to do a pre-ride dinner on Wednesday the 30th. We, the Longmont Crew, are planning to arrive in Fruita early afternoon and hopefully get a quick 18 road ride in followed by a celebratory dinner at Guadalajara.

Almost within the 10 Day Forecast! (2008-04-21)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Pelli-montonia

Well April 30 is now in the 10 day forecast for Fruita - Rain - but the odds of that actually playing out are probably worse than me winning the powerball on Wed.!! I'm just happy to be within 10 days of heading to Fruita. On another note if anyone is heading to fruita this weekend the weather looks like it will be awesome!!

re: Tire Stuff (2008-04-18)

Mitchell

Golden, CO

Ha! That's 10 hours for 45 miles not the whole 140. :) And even that may be a longshot for me. Besides, I need people in front of me for the video. BTW... If anyone needs a ride from Golden, I have room for one. Going up early on the 7th.

Tires - 10 Hour Day (2008-04-18)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Wow-mont!

10 hours from Fruita to Moab ;o) . . . I don't think the question is . . "what kind of tires are you going to ride on" . . . but more . . "what kinda Jet Pack do you use!!!" :o) Or maybe along the same lines what kinda' beans do you put in your burrito's!!!!! I agree . . . forget the tire stuff just ride the trail . . . However, urban legend has it that the perfect MTB tire for all conditions was made by a guy in living in Minot, ND. . . but like the high fuel effic. car it was immediately snubbed out by OPEC!!! :o) See you all on the trail!!

What? (2008-04-18)

Mitchell

Golden, CO

I really don't get what all the fuss about tires is. I have run the same tires on every trail I ride and it was never an issue. Stop fussin' and just ride what ya got. BTW... I'll be the one clocking in a 10 hour day. :)

GPS (2008-04-18)

GrandJunctionite

GJ, CO

oops forgot to add this to the last post. I will be bringing my sub-foot accuracy GPS that runs ArcPad software (mobile GIS) to try and map the route, assuming I do not run out of batteries. That way I can do some cool things with the routes in a GIS that I keep with trails on it. What I wonder is what format those guys from GJmountainbiking like do they like shapefiles or are they a Garmin bunch? I suppose I could ask them.

Tires? (2008-04-18)

GrandJunctionite

GJ, CO

I am going to ride without tires just rims... no not really. I for one do not see many advantages to running different tires for the multitude of terrains we will see. Meaning, I have tried many, many different tires/rims sizes etc and they all accomplish the same thing- they get you from point A to point B. I think the biggest thing for the heavy crowd would be 2.4 in the front and at least 2.35 in the rear. For the guys and gals on the lighter side you too would be doing yourself favor with at least 2.3s. Personally I am a bit of a freak and run Maxxis Advantage in the front (2.4) and Specialized Eskar in the rear (2.35).Then again I may be one of the heaviest people on the ride at a slim 260...so if I pass you be ready to be heckled. (Trip #2)

Thanks Guy with the Clip Board (2008-04-17)

Viking

Longmont, CO`

Thanks Alex. I exchanged emails with a fella from GJMountainbiking.com. He said there was a moto link, but it tends to be sandy in that area and so he has never ridden it. He wished us good luck and asked that we get way points for mapping. So maybe we'll give it a whirl on Day 2 or, if time and energy permit scope it out on Day 1. Thanks in advance for all your continued hardwork on organizing this fun and challenging event.

Packing (2008-04-17)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Longfall-mont

Mental note . . . pack a parachute in my HAWG and practice my Mtb-basejumping technique!!!! Someone call TGR - I've got an idea ;o)

Tires (2008-04-17)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Tireselection-mont, CO

I'll be running Maxxis Minion DHF 2.35's regardless of conditions. These are what I roll best on regardless of conditions and since there's talk of sand and varied conditions? . . . Well they'll float better than most and if it comes to speed uphill, hey - it's not the K.T.R. I'm just going to enjoy the ride - I'll see ya on the downhill's :o) and you'll hear me grunting in the back of the pack on the uphill's I guess ;o)

weather, tires, trail hookups (2008-04-17)

The guy with the clipboard

Boulder

Moab clocked 23 degrees as a low last nite. Will probably be 80 today. Go figure. Looks like the tire questions are starting again - just a note on the mud, EVERY tire will muck heavily in that adobe mud, there's no magic tread for it. Yes the TOTW trail overlooks Fisher Valley camp, no you're not connecting the two without a parachute. About a connector from the Overlook Trail to the railroad Trestle on day 2 (Ryan, Chris), I scoped it out and there's got to be a moto track that connects them, ending about 1.5 miles above the railbridge on the pavement. This is a job for Fruita Frank.

Re Tires (2008-04-17)

Viking

Longmont, CO

I've done the ride twice. First year on Verticals and last year on Weirwolves, both were 2.35's. There is less technical riding on days 2 & 3 so your Verticals would probably be better. I remember spinning out alot on day 1 with my Verticals. They float in sand ok but I remember walking a lot. Last year we had lots of mud and the Weirwolves caked up - thank god for disc brakes. So if rain is forecasted you'll want to run something that sheds mud/rocks/etc. I'm hoping for no mud this year as I'll be running Weirwolves again. My reasons for running Weirwolves are these: 1. because I like them and 2 because I'm too cheap to go buy different tires. Hope this helps.

Tires Again (2008-04-17)

Rob

I have made my decision, but I still want to put this out there. I have 2 sets of Tubeless tires I use on my bike. 1) Continental Vertical - 2.3 2) Maxxis High Rollers -2.35 I like the Maxxis the best as far as all around performers. I like them on the technical rock sections for they're grip. They seem to corner better than the Continentals. For the type of trail riding I like best they are very good for me. The problem I have with them is they don't roll very well. The Continentals are lighter (by 1/2 pound) and roll noticeably better. It's easier to climb with them. They work much better in the snow. They clean out much better than the Maxxis. I weigh about 160lbs and run my tires around 25lbs + or - I've heard so many different opinions of the terrain I'm confused. Right now I am going to use the Continentals. I have Stans in them and will probably use 23 to 24 in the front and 25lbs in the back. Is there so much double track and jeep road in this ride that if my tires don't roll well the ride will suck? Or is there enough technical riding to make me glad I brought the High Rollers? Let me know what you think of the terrain, if you have done this ride before.

dusty moab (2008-04-16)

Brian

Avon,CO

Yesterday rode in 80 deg 40mph+ wind/dust storm in Moab. Today did LPS & Porcupine- LPS cattle grate entrance was 32deg and 54 at the river. Saw lots of snow up in the La Sals , hopin' it melts soon. I rode full sus last year in the second group, and if it stops snowin' in the Vail Valley and get in some road miles-not just my trainer , I hope to rock my Niner SS this year. Using two cogs in the back for the climbs on the last two days. Anyone else stupid enough to SS it this year?

(2008-04-16)

Viking

Longmont, CO

2 WEEKS!!!! As of Monday we'll be on the 10 day forecast! So far so good..... fingers crossed.

Re: roll call (2008-04-16)

Matt C-NOVA Crew

Ashburn, VA

We've got a crew of 8 from Northern VA (near DC) meeting up with 2 from Vail for the 5/8 tour. Getting more consistent good weather here so stepping up the miles! mmm.... Boulder Brewing.

Where From (2008-04-15)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Where-Mont!!

Well I bought a Yeti and was kicked out of Minnesota by the governor because the bike had too much travel for the upper Midwest!! :o)

Roll Call & Top of the World (2008-04-15)

Viking

Longmont, CO

Where are folks from? Also, I was checking out google earth lastnight and noticed that Top of the World looks down on camp 2. Is that right? The maps show Top of the World as an out and back but it looks like - from the ATV trails on google earth - that the Top O' the World trail has a loop that swings out to the overlook and back to the Kokopelli. Is that true? Anyone?

Brew (2008-04-14)

Viking

Usually Boulder Brewing beers. Last year I believe it was hazed and infused and something else. Unless he gets Dales - canned mtb fuel, baby. Ryan

Beer !! (2008-04-14)

Endo

Off topic (kinda). What kinda beer does Alex and crew bring for the all you can drink !!! starting to work on that part of my endurance. thanks.

GJ Riding (2008-04-14)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Pelli-montonia

Hey Chris, Sorry to hear that you made the trip to G-J - hope all is as well as it can be. Good to hear that you got out on the saddle and did some riding though. Safe travels and give me a holler when you get back to Longmontonia and maybe we can head out and hit some trail.

(2008-04-13)

chris

longmont, Co

Hey yeti, We're in Grand Junction for all the wrong reasons tonight but maybe next weekend. Looks like you had a great time. I rode to rabbit this morning before we scadaddled... Rock on 3 weeks- Chris

Duplicate Post's (2008-04-13)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Dufus-Mont

Sorry everyone for the duplicate post - - I lost my internet connection.

Weekend Rides (2008-04-13)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Amp\'d-for-Pelli-mont!!

Hope you all had an awesome weekend riding. I hit the cold and wind on Sat. and headed to Heil from Longmont, then to Hall, Rabbit, and home again. After hearing Mike, Chris, and the Viking talk about the ride conditions a year ago - I'm hoping that unecessarily subjecting my body to the effects of the wind and cold weather will appease the Kokopelli weather spirit's and will bring weather good-fortune to all Pelli'ers during the May 1-3 ride!! There was virtually no one on the trails in Nothern Boulder County on Sat. afternoon - which was eery. Less than three weeks to go!!!!!!

NO.BO.CO-Trifecta (2008-04-13)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

My-insert word here-Hurts-Mont

Hey Y'all, did the Heil, Hall, Rabbit on Sat. - I guess I like to ride in the wind and cold or maybe I'm paying sacrifice to the wind/weather gods of the Kokopelli now so that the weather will be beautiful-60 deg-windless-blue-bird for all three days!!! Hmmmmm. All in all it was a good ride, great trail conditions and ahem, highway conditions :o) I'm sure the traffic at all three trailheads is ridiculous with this awesome weather today - virtually no one was out yesterday I didn't meet 1 person coming down from the Nelson loop yesterday around 4:30 P.M. ~~ almost eeeery!!!! See you all on the Kokopelli in a couple weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trail Conditions (2008-04-12)

sdsantacruzer

Longmont

Did you guys do the Longmont to Heil to Hall to Rabbit and back ride today? What were the conditions? I am doing it Sunday so was wondering.

3 Weeks and Counting (2008-04-11)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Psyched-for-pelli-mont

3 Weeks and counting down!!!! See you all in Fruita very soon!!!! I haven't thought about the "Ride the Rockies" tour. Actually I don't know anything about that Road tour, sounds fun though?

RTR (2008-04-11)

Norm

Columbia, SC

Anyone doing Ride The Rockies also?

Sat or Sun (2008-04-10)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Hallin-mont

Chris, sunday A.M. won't work for me, so I'm gonna cross my fingers and hope that Sat. will be dry enough ;o) Come'on Colo. Sunshine!!!!

(2008-04-09)

chris

longmont, Co

Looks like the shuttle won't be able to get up that road and we all have to climb that hideous climb. Oh, Ryan told ya about the other bridge already...... Scott, this Sat is good for me but if the trails are looking better (dry) for Sunday I'd prefer to ride then. Does everyone want to meet at the rose garden at Roosevelt say 8:45ish

Dewey - Route (2008-04-09)

VIking

No, the loss of Dewey, logistically means we will cross the river about 200 yards down stream on HWY 128. Ryan

Dewey bridge, where do we cross now? (2008-04-09)

Clint

CO

So that absolutely does suck that the bridge went down, i'm also a bekerpelli virgin and was looking forward to that as a landmark. Does this effect our route?

Alternative Ride (2008-04-09)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

LongHALL-mont

Chris, I talked to Mike and we've agreed that doing the Longmont - Heil - Hall - Rabbit - Longmont will be on the slate instead of heading to Gowdy - I need some time in the saddle and not in the drivers seat . . . So unless the weather really deteriorates in the front range and we get a butt load of snow this ride should be a go. I think I'd leave my place around 8:30 A.M. on Sat. A.M. - meet you at 8:50 A.M. - then meet Mike around 9:05 A.M. then head to Heil - then to Hall - then to Rabbit. Any thoughts Chris?

Curt Gowdy (2008-04-08)

sdsantacruzer

Longmont

I am headed to Laramie tomorrow then to Cheyenne. I will give a full report on conditions at Curt Gowdy late afternoon. Really sad news about the Dewey bridge. I had the good fortunate to ride the area last October. As someone said on the mtbr web site, It was an icon, everyone knew the Dewey Bridge area.

(2008-04-08)

chris

longmont, Co

Scott, Whatever day is better weather works for me. I've got to work one day but riding is a priority so let's do it. Is there a contingency ride you want to hit if it's looking like Gowdy will be unrideable due to this week's wet weather they are talking about? The Fort works for me if need be. Mike, you coming? Who else? Dales???

Gowdy Cont'd (2008-04-08)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

A little slow-mont

Who's in for GOWDY!! This weekend. We can rally at Roosevelt if there are more than the usual group.

Curt Gowdy State Park (2008-04-08)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Ridegowdy-mont!

Okay so I'd like to put on 50 miles this weekend up at Curt Gowdy - Say Sat. or Depending on Weather - Sun. I can't drive up there so someone else will have to bring the support vehicle! I'll probably wrangle up a couple more people to ride whichever day we commit to. Maybe a group of Longmontonians will be wanting to come and ride . . . ride . . ride . . ride . . and ummmm . . ride!!

Dewey Bridge (2008-04-08)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Troubled-mont

Nut's I've never been before - and it hurts to look at that bridge burning down!! Definitley one of those things that make you think that someday you'll remember to get out and see those things that people tell you about before their gone . . . . . . . by some unforseen act of life.

Dewey (2008-04-08)

Ryan

I cannot believe Dewey's gone. This is surely a sad day for the folks in the region and for anyone who has done the Koko. The bridge was a landmark that everyone wrote about. Having worked in Historic Preservation i hope Grand County will be able to secure funds to rebuild and memorialize the bridge. I also hope the boy who burned the bridge is provided counseling for his actions. Burning is the first indicator of abuse and control problems. Viking

(2008-04-07)

chris

longmont, Co

Actually the bridge looks like Ryan just went over it.

(2008-04-07)

chris

longmont, Co

At least if the bridge was collapsing as we just got over it, maybe it would of been cool then, kind of Indiana Jones style.

(2008-04-07)

Rico

Whoa...

(2008-04-07)

chris

longmont, Co

The bridge from 1916 was taken down by a 7 year old. That orange globe mallow that bloomed at the base of the bridge is going to look lonely..

London bridge is burning down (2008-04-07)

chris

longmont, Co

Bad bad news everyone. I just heard and seen that the beautiful historic Dewey bridge that we've all revered and loved and photographed has burned down, gone, finito last night. The quintessential midwayish icon where the Colorado river and the Kokopelli trail intersect was burned down by a boy playing with matches. Great.... if you've never seen it or got to ride across...you never will. Sorry. Coming out of Yellow Jacket, it was the perfect setting for lunch before the big climb. This sucksssssss.

Curt Gowdy (2008-04-07)

mike

Chris & Scott i would be up for hitting Curt Gowdy next weekend - what day do you think you are going to going? Only three weeks to go, and I really need to start punishing - no training! And there couldn't be a better place to start than S. Wyoming!

Gowdy (2008-04-06)

Viking

I'm out for Gowdy. Forgot I we were having a family weekend in Chicago. I'll raise a slice of pizza for the 'pellier's. rjk

Curt Windy Ride . . . (2008-04-06)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Long-hall-mont!!

Chris, the Viking has informed me about the Curt Gowdy ride nexxxxxt weekend, ummmmmm count me INNNNN for some of that SSSSSSSSwwwweeettt Gowdy singletrack!! Can't wait . . . maybe I'll bring the grill with as well for post ride BBQ if everyone has time? Viking and I got out on Friday and did a quick longmont to Heil and back . . I think he's got his lungs ready for the pelli!! Somehow I got roped into sittin with the niece, stop over I got a new-old toy I gotta show ya. . . . Alright till next weekend!!!! Who's all in for the Tour De Gowdy - 50 miler!!

Time to get psyched (2008-04-06)

VIking

Just to get yer blood pumpin' a bit. check out www.westernslopestyle.blogspot.com for some good bike p*rn. Namely - the sedona and bartlet wash segments. Ryan

Curt Gowdy (2008-04-04)

sdsantacruzer

Long-wait for Kokopelli-mont

Chris, I called a local bike shop in Laramie to check conditions and they said two weeks ago Curt Gowdy was ridable. It has since snowed but no recent reports were available. I have business in Laramie next week and will get a current update. I would would be up to ride the area but will only be able to ride the weekend of the 13th. I am heading to SD on the 18 & 19 to ride the Black Hills. (And see family) Regarding the wind in Wyoming....They use a log chain for a wind sock in that state. :-)

(2008-04-03)

chris

longmont, Co

It's been pretty windy and dry up there and willing to bet it would be quite similar to our front range, but will do some checking this week and post back later. It will be so convenient to get a group of people for a Wyoming trip since everyone on the Kokopelli is from Longmont. It's a 1:30 drive straight up North. This new security/spam stuff would work great on the border

Curt Gowdy (2008-04-03)

sdsantacruzer

Longmont

This month? Is there still snow up there?

Curt Gowdy (2008-04-03)

Viking

I'll check the social calendar. Mark me as a tentative - yes.

(2008-04-03)

Chris

longmont, Co

Curt Gowdy Wyoming tour on the 13th or 20th? I love this place. SSSSingletrack built by the pro's for mtbers. An easy 50 miles (riding in both directions) of horseless techy twisty and tight trails through fun rock gardens and beautiful meadows and aspen groves. See, uhhum, my pics on the vedauwoo jack trip and let's go ride the best kept secret on the front range. Can be windy. Guaranteed to put your legs and lungs in order for the trip. I doubt we'll see more than 20 people on the trail. Anyone???

transport (2008-04-03)

david

denver, co

hey, if anyone is interested in tranport to fruita for the Koko trail ride scheduled for May 8. I can take 2-3 riders and gear. will leave the 7th may, early, maybe get checked in and do a warmup ride that afternoon. Anyone interested email me crockettd2@msn.com.

(2008-04-03)

chris

longmont, Co

I've been riding maxxis ignitors tubless 2.35 for over a year now and have had 1 flat that i was able to reinflate trailside. These tires are great all around and love the desert (as Ryan and I got to pound this weekend) Great sand float, not very sticky with mud(hey what isn't?) wet traction over smooth rocks is ok, good rolling. Advantage tires are my next choice I'd like to try. Maxxis in general are better tires than most. A little expensive but will give you quite the optimal experience trailside. Now if they could just get me some tubless 29ers....

Kenda Small Block Eight Tires (2008-04-03)

sdsantacruzer

Longmont

Rode them from Longmont to Hall Ranch last weekend and back. The rolling resistance on the pavement was superb. I like the fact they have a wide range inflation capacity. 30psi to 80 psi I ran them at 45 psi for that ride. The conditions at Hall were excellent on Saturday so any tire would have worked well. IMO Rode Hall again yesterday with them at 35 psi and was impressed. They are a little sketchy on rock surface mixed with gravel. Like Hall can offer. They also pick up and hold mud if the mud is sticky. But performed well overall. I am really concerned about the thickness of the tire. They are built light and give up some of the thickness beneath the tread. I have had two flats already. I am going to do the same route this weekend and add in Heil. We'll see how they perform with the loose rocky terrain Heil offers. After watching the videos of the Kokpelli on this web site I am inclined to ride my Maxxis Advantage. We'll see.

sdsantacruzer (2008-04-02)

Sean

Do you have any experience with the Kenda tires you talk about. What makes you think they will work well? Do they roll well? How are they in the rocks? What pressure do you use? Are they prone to flats?

Hot off the trail (2008-04-01)

Viking

Just got back from Moab/Fruita. Chris and I had a grand time. Hit Klondike Bluffs and the Slick Rock practice loop. Weather and other life commitments kept the rides short. Vail Pass closed monday shut us out from going home. Found that out in Fruita so we hit Mary's Loop and Horse Thief Bench. We got to watch the sun set on the Colorado and enjoy a cold Dales in the parking lot. Colorado is awesome. It got my blood pumping for Bikerpelli. And, it will get me through my last 7 or eight spin classes....... Viking

Is eveyone ready? (2008-04-01)

sdsantacruzer

aLongfortherideMont

Where is everyone? There is only weeks left till we hit the trail. I am getting really pumped. Been watching the videos of the past rides and am anxious to make the trip. Three fun filled days of doing what we love to do! Let's get riding!

new rules (2008-03-30)

anti-spammer

Just checking out the spam attacks recently. Web Mistress is installing a safeguard shortly.

Joisey response-And Tire Question (2008-03-28)

sdsantacruzer

Longingmont

To Joisey: You'll have to take both, along with a Redbull, to get through the techy stuff. ;^) I have been thinking about the tire questions brought up in previous posts. Has anyone rode the Kenda Small Block Eights? They are not super aggressive and probably not for rocky techy stuff but on a long ride they appear to provide a more efficient rolling resistance. I am going to try them out on Hall Ranch tomorrow.

(2008-03-27)

Joisey

How about Viagra or Rogaine. Will this help my technical ability?

(2008-03-27)

Chris

Oh good, Air Jordans...... wtf Alejo

(2008-03-27)

Viking

I heard JC Penny has some sweet deals on Mavic Crossmax wheels and Intense 29er spiders. Awesome.

(2008-03-25)

Vike

We'll be thinking about you, McLovin.

Hall Last Night (2008-03-25)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Ride-mont, CO

Chris, tyou ride hall last night as well - thought maybe you were doing one of your Forest Gump style single-speed racer 80+ miler rides again :o)? I ran up and did a quick loop and got down as the sun set kinda boring but hey I'm not Mr. Technical like the Viking. Hope all you guys have a great ride in Moab this weekend - I'll be jealous but I'll probably just be riding up at Hall all weekend and maybe squeezing in some road riding as well.

(2008-03-24)

Viking

Weekend. I'm looking forward to this weekend, Chris. Can't wait to get out there and ride in Moab. I forgot to bring the steed into the stable for servicing today. Hopefully the good guys at Blue Sky will forgive me. later, Ryan

Trails and tires (2008-03-24)

Frank Grand Junction

Grand Junction, Colo

Except for the first 1/2 day which is rocky, the trails and fire roads will be dry and loose. If you weigh 150 or less then a 2.0 tire will work. If you weigh more including a camelback full of stuff then you should consider bigger tires. 2.3 tires both front and back work well. The trails are dry now and in a few weeks they will be really soft. Ask Alex and remember he weighs 140 lbs. in a rain storm.

(2008-03-24)

chris

I think next weekend we'll have our choice of dry trails Ryan. We can lead Scott H. right into the gnarly. haha Saw your bro coming back from Hall tonight. Looks like he's jumped right back in after your ludicrous weekend like any typical Longmonter. Yeeha

(2008-03-24)

Viking

Anything going on out there in Pelli-land?

Roomshare/Rideshare (2008-03-18)

Don

Loveland

Anyone out there interested in sharing a motel room, and/or ride from Loveland/Ft. Collins/Longmont area for May 7?

Hall Ranch (2008-03-17)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

MTBing-mont

Hey, rode Hall last night - a little Rico cross training this weekend as well - tried to see how many bruises I could get while trying (I stress - trying) to tele at Eldora on Sat. Instead of riding. Hit Hall Sunday afternoon saw a couple people but it was kinda cold ~ went from 48 in Lyons to about 34 on top of the Nelso loop as the weather set in. Both temps are tropical for North Dakota so my blood must still carry a little ND anti-freeze in it as I was the one wearing shorts and a jersey while it was dumping sleet and snow :o). Sorry I didn't get back to anyone later last week I got slammed by work and well did more running than biking!!! Hopefully we can all catch up and do a KOKO-mont Ride before Bikerpelli!!!

Moab (2008-03-17)

Viking

Thanks, James. Chris and I are heading out that way in two weeks. I'm looking forward to riding the trails. Keep us updated on conditions.

Tires & Conditions (2008-03-16)

James

Grand Junction

Rode in Moab Wednesday, still snow & mud on North side of Porcupine climb, after the shuttle dropped us off. Once on top, the descent was dry and fast. Amasa Back was dry, not too sandy. Using the Specialized Eskar in 2.3 2bliss. Grips well, a bit slower than the Resolution was. Going to try a 2.0 on the back for this ride.

(2008-03-15)

Dog

A fattiy in the camelback if anything;=/

(2008-03-14)

Viking

I'd go big all around. But, I'm also into options so I'd bring the skinny tire in case it's drier than usual making it sandier than usual. The fatties will be great for the first half of the first day. It could be sandy - no - it will be sandy in the PM of the first day and when we hit Yellow Jacket on the second day. Both sandy sections are after sag so you'd have the chance to swap your fatty rear for the skinny sand burner at sag. I think the fatty up front and the skinny out back would probably be a good option. ALthough I don't think it would be necessary. Point is I've only used wide tires on the two times I've ridden it. Rico road 2.0 kenda's last year. He is blazing fast and a bit of a weight weeny so he went ummmm narrrow?!... He blazed through the sand with the skinnies. Most of the riding I do on the Front Range is almost exactly like the terrain we'll be riding on the Koko. So the Weirwolves are great tires. You can get them narrow and that might be a good option. I'll be running the 2.3's only because that's what I have and I'm to cheap to buy a new set of tires. For what its worth I hope this helps.

Sand tires (2008-03-14)

Endo

Thanks Viking....would you go Weirwolves front and back (maybe 2.3 front...2.0 back?) or just a big front Tire. Tanks Mon

Tires (2008-03-13)

Viking

Weirwolves work really well. I ran continental verticals the first year and spun out a lot. Last year the Weirwolves were great in the mud and sand. I hear of a legend of some guys from Ohio who on the morning of the second day switched out their tires for slicks, then switched back to knobbies at dewey bridge for the climb to the top of the world. Does anyone else remember that story?

Bike Tires (2008-03-13)

Endo

colorado

Never ridden the middle part of the KoKo. Are sand specific tires a must? (i guess for yellow jacket). Are they necessary for the Rabit Valley to Dewey Bridge? What do you recommend..(weirwolfs are the only ones i can think of). I almost always ride Python Lites. thanks

Hall Thursday night (2008-03-13)

Rob

I may be interested too. I work in Aurora, so it depends how early.

Hall/Thursday Ride (2008-03-12)

sdsantacruzer

East Loungemont

Hey Yeti McLovin. If you are riding Hall Thursday I may be interested. What time? The mtbr site says Hall is dry to Nelson loop and there are a few spots on Nelson that are wet. PS. I am the guy you met riding with Rob on DDB a few weeks back. Mike

(2008-03-12)

Viking

7 weeks baby!

SOOOOOoooooo....ooo...oo...o Quiet (2008-03-12)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Loungemont

What the Hey where is everyone???? We're less than two months out!!!

Last Weekend (2008-03-10)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Awesome Indian Peaks Viewmont

Hey, Heard of a few pellier's that got out last weekend. I ended up getting a new stem for the road bike on Friday (ooooo it's like a new bike!!) So that caused me to ditch the Mtn. Bike for the Road on sat. and got out around the fruit loops, st. vrain, 36, up to rabbit, and up to Carter for a healthy amount of roading. Not sure how many miles I have on but I got the Garmin Forerunner 50 HRM and it's pretty cool as is the software. Gotta love it when the REI dividend comes back!!! Alright so what's going on next weekend??? Anyone wanna ride on Thurs. Night - hall - if it's dry?? I guess it'll depend on the weather????

(2008-03-10)

Viking

I heard a few of you made it out this weekend. Good for you. I lost a week to the flu. I guess a flu vaccination is no match for the day-care-crud. Let me know if anything is shaping up for next weekend.

Sat. (2008-03-08)

Rob

I'm riding my cross bike. What bike are you going to ride? I don't know if anyone is training on any other type of bike as well, but I'll put this out there anyway. I am trying to put in about 1,500 miles before May 1st on all types of bikes. I would like to get in a few 100 mile rides on the road. A loop from my house in Longmont through BigThompson Canyon to Estes Park and down Rt 7 is 100 miles. On that route there is about 50 miles of climbing. I'm not up to that point yet but in another month I hope to be. Just post here if your interested. I'm going to do those rides on my road bike.

(2008-03-07)

Chris

Going north from the house tomorrow am. Up for some big miles?

(2008-03-07)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Anyone-Mont

Beuler . . Beuler . . Anyone . . Anyone . . Beuler???

(2008-03-07)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

No-one home-mont!!

Helllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo . . out there?

Weekend Riding (2008-03-07)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Sprawl-mont

Who am I riding with this weekend and where are we gonna go!!!!!

Bike Trailer vs Panniers (2008-03-03)

Jason

Sunnyvale, CA

Maria, You want to check out Cold Springs Racks (http://www.adventurecycling.org/store/category.cfm?Category=21). They make the rack to fit most frames without rack eyelets, including dual suspension by using wheel axle as attaching point. Because you have a support vehicle to carry water and food, and don't have to carry a whole lot of gear, maybe it makes sense to have a rack with panniers if possible. From my experience, the trailer was better when there was a lot to carry because it did not put the load on the bike. On the other hand, it adds one more wheel to control. Anyway, whichever you choose, I wish you a great trip.

Last Weekend (2008-03-03)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Wheelsidedown-mont, CO

Hey, nice to see some of ya'll Pellier's out on the Blue Sky trail this weekend - Sat. what an awesome respite from winter 70 and sunny with intermittent sunburn!!! Awesome view all the way to Mt. Evans and up into RMNP from the landfill overlook!!! Then the blast right between the eyes with snow/30-40 mph gusts/ and 20 deg. on Sunday, yeesh!!! At least in MN I knew it was going to be cold all winter with intermitent 30 deg. days!!! Oh well everything has it's place. Ran a few miles on Sunday despite the weather but it'll be interesting to see how Coyote Ridge fared through the highwinds and drifting - I'm thinkin' there will be some muddy and icy sections again in the valley's on Indian Summer and maybe the Blue Sky section between Lowry and Coyote Ridge Cutoff??? Any thoughts out there anyone else take advantage of the great weather on Sat to get out and Ride????

Panniers Vs trailer (2008-02-29)

Viking

Check www.crazyguyonabike.com, or mtbr.com. Those options might help. Sorry if I offended you or seemed condescending. Have a great trip.

Panniers VS Trailer (2008-02-29)

Maria

St. Paul, MN

I have Alex's book and have read it several times this winter. He suggests either panniers or a trailer- I was looking for advice from someone who has used either. I appreciate the suggestion about the trailer. I'm familiar with the terrain in Fruita and Grand Jctn, so I know its not MN. Thanks for the help!

Panier's VS trailer (2008-02-28)

Viking

Former Minnesotan

Maria, I'd suggest stowing as much gear as you can where-ever you can and carry as little as possible. I think pulling a trailer would cut down on a lot of the fun, considering you're riding single track and bouncing down fairly rough double track. I'd suggest carrying the bare minimum. There are road segments but the majority of it is off road jeep trail and double track. I can't think of anything in MSP/MN that would be similarly rough. Maybe Yetti-Mclovin has some thought on that. I'd stick to a backpack. I think the camping areas Alex has reserved time and again are great. If you are bent on carrying your own tent camping supplies etc, I'd spend one night camped out on the Western Rim trail (if camping is allowed there). Alex has written a book that details the ins and outs of the Kokopelli. You should check in with him. I hope this is helpful. I'm playing the Gear Daddies - Dream Vacation - in honor of your trip.

Saturday (2008-02-28)

Viking

Bill, If you guys start at DB we should be coming down from Indian Summer about the same time you roll up to the Indian Summer trail head. Chris, how was the DB? Rocky n' rough? I'm looking forward to getting out there. Yetti-Mclovin won't be able to join us. He's cross training at Winter Park. Ryan

(2008-02-28)

chris

longmont, Co

DB or CYridge works for me. The longer the better. 72 on saturday, I bet we'll see some people recreating.

blue sky (2008-02-28)

bill

denver

r/t b/t devils backbone & soderburg looks to be about 25 miles +/-. time-wise: 2hrs//3 hrs//4 hrs? 99% sure i'll be doing this ride on sat.; leaving from devil's backbone @ 9:30a. if anyone wants to meet up.

Bike Trailer vs Panniers (2008-02-28)

Maria

St. Paul, MN

I'm looking forward to riding Kokopelli's trail this spring. Does anyone have advice about hauling gear? I have a BOB trailer and would like carry my gear in the trailer (my frame can't accomodate a rear rack). My riding partner will probably have a rear rack and panniers. We plan to ride the trail in 4 days, with ride support (water/food drop offs and gear exchange) so we don't have to carry all of our gear the entire way.

(2008-02-27)

Viking

No worries, Rob. I look forward to riding with you Chris.

(2008-02-27)

Rob

Longmont,Co

This weekend doesn't work for me.

(2008-02-27)

chris

longmont, Co

I'm in.

Larimer Saturday Ride info (2008-02-27)

Viking

One more link. FYI http://www.trailcentral.com/gps/gps_county.php?county=Larimer&state=CO

Saturday 3/1/08 (2008-02-27)

Viking

How 'bout a group ride Saturday 3/1/08? Meet at Coyote Ridge between Loveland and Fort Collins, ride Indian Summer, the BST to Horsetooth, up to the towers and down through Lowry? If you are not familiar with the trails above check out the following link http://www.larimer.org/naturalresources/bluesky.htm. There you will find the info needed to meet up on Saturday AM. Lets plan to meet by 9:00 AM at the Coyote Ridge Trailhead. Are you in?

(2008-02-26)

chris

Your welcome Bill. Hopefully as we approach May, as Yeti boy wonder said, we could do some larger group rides so we could pre meet each other and just have some real fun on the trails and share stories. This will be the best Bikerpelli yet....

(2008-02-26)

bill

denver co

thx chris!

(2008-02-26)

chris

longmont, Co

The Blue sky is in great shape as of Sunday. A little snow last night but it won't last more than a day with temps. Dust was getting blown around on Sun it was so dry. It could of been the Longmont crew going by really fast also! Just don't go past the tunnel at the rez. I always go to the campsites to regroup and took the trail over. Complete spooge all the way. Take the road at the tunnel or uturn. After riding the kokopelli 3x's, I've learned lots about my capabilities. For me, I've determined that mileage plus intensity (and riding similar terrain and climbing) is key to training. In the end I do spend a lot of hours on the bike, but at least I know I can cover oh so many miles in that time no matter what kind of conditions and get from point a to b in a huffy if I have to. Again, for me, I feel the training schedule you get from Bikerpelli should be used as a minimum and strive for a lot more if possible in order to ride strong. Also, your choice of seat can be as important as the beer selection. Bring your personal seat if your renting a bike and make sure you are accustomed to being on it for a long time to know if it's the right choice for a long bumpy ride. Nothing can make your day better if all else is going wrong.....

training rides (2008-02-26)

bill

denver, co

did ride #2 last year; doing #2 this year. going to follow Alex's advice from last year, and train not so much in MILES riden, but in HOURS riden. if anyone interested, i plan on riding highway 83/parker rd. from co. springs to denver-get dropped off in the springs & ride north. i also do at least 1 ride during the week as i work from home. re: blue sky trail-what kind of shape is it in? thx

(2008-02-25)

Viking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

Good to get out and see a few other 'pellier's on the trail this weekend. Yetti-Mclovin, Mike, Chris and I made it out. It was good to see Rob and his buddy Mike out there too. I hope other pelliers were able to get out and enjoy. I know the Western Slopes are covered with the white goodness. As Rico says - cross training is good! enjoy the snow.

(2008-02-25)

chris

It's crazy who you run into on the trail...

Coyote Ridge to blue sky (2008-02-25)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Serendipitousmont

Hey, seems like alot of Longmont Folks are heading out for the Bikerpelli in fact as me and my two amigos (Biking Viking and Mike) were riding the Blue Sky trail we happened in to a couple other Pelli'ers (Rob and ?Dan?)!! Nice to meet ya guys. We'll have to all get together and do some larger group rides? Anyone up for it!!

(2008-02-23)

VIking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

We're staring down another beautiful Sunday in the Front Range. Looked like the mountains were getting some snow today, while the trails dried out down here. I'm looking forward to getting out there tomorrow with Yetti-Mclovin, Mike and Christo. I hope things dry out on the Western Slope for you Frank, and I hope everyone is training to some extent.

(2008-02-23)

Viking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

Training (2008-02-23)

Norm

Columbia,SC

Training was going really well until two weeks ago. My wife and I went to Steamboat for 10 days and the second day there I get sick as a dog. Never got well, never got to the slopes. Ended up with pneumonia and to say that it set me back is an understatement. Monday I will start anew and hopefully I am not too far behind the eightball. My acceptance and attitude is pretty good though so STILL looking forward to May. Lots of good riding weather here in Cola. so that will help things.

training (2008-02-22)

Frank

Grand Junction

So far it has been spin class and some Tele days on the mountin. It is snowing again today but I think that Moab will be ridable soon, As usual it will be the last minute crash training this year.

Training (2008-02-22)

Viking

So what are people doing for training? Is anyone following Alex's adivice or training tips from the website? I don't recommend the OTC approach (Off The Couch). I did that last year. It sux getting to Moab and not having enough energy to do the epic rides along the way into town. So what are people up to? BTW only 10 weeks til we ride!

Dewey bridge shuttle (2008-02-21)

Frank

Grand Junction

If you haven't done the entire climb before then you should. I have twice and I'm an old dude. Most fit riders won't have any diff. with it and it beats waiting for the shuttle if you stay to long at the lunch stop just before it. The ride from the top of the world junction on up is clearly the best part of that stretch. Rose garden hill in the rain and sleet is a thrill. This year will be dry , I bet.

(2008-02-19)

The Vike

Mclovin-mont, CO

No can-do tomorrow night. Sorry. Thursday is out too, school meeting. I went up above Lyons tonight. It was great. I had two shadows. One from the Alpen Glow and the other from the Moon Shine. I highly recommend, you Chris, and Scott get out on Thursday night. Should be really nice.

Full Moon (2008-02-19)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Mclovin-mont

The moon shall light up the sky over Ft. Collins well I would suppose. I'd like to ride Wed. Evening, but I've got a meeting I've gotta be at. Maybe Thursday on the usual trail - with the heat the hills above Lyons may present good opportunities as well?

(2008-02-19)

christo

Lunamont

Full luna lunar eclipse (rarity) tommorow WED beginning at 6 45 pm. The full moon will turn blood red like Moab. Where we riding? I'll be charging my light. Hopefully those clouds hold off till later in the night.

Spin Class (2008-02-19)

Yeti-Mclovin\'

Mclovin-mont

Do I need to study, will there be a test, and what's the classroom scenery like?

Re: Day two (2008-02-19)

Vikin

Rico and I took the shuttle the first year. Grinding up that climb would have been better. The shuttle was slow and took a long time. My goal is to do a litttle extra training and grind out the climb. I agree with Frank's equation. Cleaning greater than ride time equals spin class. Yetti Mclovin' should get himself to a spin class.

(2008-02-18)

Jack

Rose garden hill

Extremely boring and totally uninteresting. Are you talking about the desert or Hillary. There's a shuttle for the seniors that stops near my house to pick up the littlte old ladies. I wonder where they load the bikes?

(2008-02-17)

Chris

Longmont, Co

I would say that the Top of the world trail intersection is around halfway up or less.(the easy half) The guys driving the shuttles in the past had stopped at that point for some people and then continued up to the top. If you think that section is boring, try the middle ring next time on Alejo's advice. That's the first "big" climb and precursor to even bigger climbs and has been quite a rewarding section to complete with the insane drop right afterwards. And if it snows or something that night, you'll wish you had climbed it. Go big in '08...

Re: Day Two plan (2008-02-10) (2008-02-17)

Trailaddict

Fort Collins, CO

"Day Two plan (2008-02-10) Alejo again " Is that shuttle up from Dewey's Bridge to about the "Top of the World" junction? If so, according to the Topo, it's only elimanates about 800 ft of climbing. (AND I appreciate the shuttle.) I remember from a previous Bikerpelli/Kokopelli trip, the climb up the Bluff was EXTREMELY boring and totally uninteresting. From the Topo, it looks like the 1st Cottonwood Canyon, is a bit beyond the Top of the World Jct by maybe a half a mile. Is that the drop off point? thanks, Trails...

training for the Pelli (2008-02-15)

Frank from Fruita

Grand Junction, Colo

I am planing to ride the Pelli again this year. I hope to start training soon but the snow and mud needs to dry. My basic rule is that if the bike cleaning time is double the ride time then the spin class wins. Moab should be ridable now or very soon. If you are out Junction way give me a call. Frank B. 257-7067

colorado springs riders (2008-02-13)

jumpastump

colorado springs

Any riders from the springs this year?

(2008-02-12)

Christo

Longitude

Great another Joisey boy! I'll bring the pepperoni yo. Bada bing

Kokpelli Trip 2 (2008-02-12)

Mitchell

Golden, CO

Hey everyone, I'll be helmet camming the ride for Alex. Since I'm not the fastest rider, I'm hoping they'll be a few I can hang in the middle with and get you on film. You can see some of my MTB videos at http://www.schnauzers.ws. I've done the Kokopelli before, but in five days not three. A challenge, but you only live once. If there's anyone who would like to help with filming off the bike shots (technical sections) just speak up and I'll bring a second camera. See you on the trail.

Sushi, Day 3 (2008-02-11)

Viking

The Viking likes uncooked fish. Although I prefer pickled herring. mmmmmmm

(2008-02-10)

Sonoran parageee

Shuttles are for outer space, save the money for sushi bar on day 3.

Day Two plan (2008-02-10)

Alejo again

I'm getting sucked into reading all the posts, must stop. ABOUT SHUTTLES ON DAY TWO - we've found the optimal plan for post-sag routing, we run the shuttles up Entrada Bluffs to the first Cottonwood Canyon, eliminating around 1800' of climbing. The rest is up to you. Every year we try something different & that's the best equation so far.

Look at y'all go (2008-02-10)

Alejo

Holy Cats! I had no idea how much this page would get used! Even a few pictures in the mix. I hope the size doesn't get overwhelming - ATTN WEB MISTRESS - GIVE THESE GUYS PLENTY OF ROOM TO MAKE A MESS IN HERE. Tires - 3.35's huh Viking, I see how your measurement scale works. About the Conti Explorer - great tire in the alpine stuff but one of my least favorite in the desert. I just kept spinning that one out on the rocks. Current fave out there is the WTB MutanoRaptor 2.4 (on Frank B of Fruita's recommendation) - http://www.performancebike.com/product_images/500/50-6765-NCL-TREAD.jpg A massive 2.4 carcass with fast tread, only 650g. The trick is to run a low pressure with it, makes it super grippy. If that image doesn't show up above, try this - http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profile.cfm?SKU=23215&item=50-6765&slitrk=search&slisearch=true

(2008-02-10)

Rico

Cross training was rough...

Correction (2008-02-09)

Viking

Lowes-mont, CO

It has been brought to my attention that I have 2.35 Weirwolves. Sorry. Although my sweet Nirve switchblade (www.nirve.com) has a 3 inch rear slick. I'd love to take it. But I don't think that type of single speed would fair well.

Cross-training With Rico (2008-02-09)

5.75\" of Yeti-Lovin

Ginormousmont, CO

Be looking for Rico's cross training video in your local Walmart and late night T.V. advertising featuring Tony Little, Rico, and an apparently hairy spandex clad Biking Viking as the three tele-buddies!!! ;o) Oh yeah, Rico - I traded the alpines for Tele's last weekend at WP, painful first 4 hours but enjoyable last 2. Hmmmm maybe the old saying "once you go tele you never go back!!" is true? Yes a lady was involved...

Tires (2008-02-09)

5.75\" of Yeti-Love

Hugemont

Hey Maybe the viking has a secret Surly Pugsley he's not telling us about stashed somewhere out on the Trail "just in case" the weather gets' really bad or he's had too many beeeerrrrs the night before and needs a little extra carbon footprint. ;o)

(2008-02-08)

me

2.5

(2008-02-08)

Viking

Tire Mont, CO

James - OH. Inevitably someone will bring up the topic of Tires, so I'll crack that egg now. I think the optimum width is 3.5. I rode WTB Weirwolves last year and they were great! Even in the snow, mud and rain. The year before I rode Continental Verticals. These were 3.0, I think. I remember spinning a lot (not in a good way), skidding, and wiping out in the sand - a lot. - Viking

(2008-02-08)

Viking

Long mooo, CO

This will be my third year. I'm bringing twenty bucks cash. I think carrying the extra weight will be well worth the massage it will buy. Otherwise, Alex's list is pretty much right on, and he brings an entire bike shop along, and beer. Enjoy the blizzard. Viking

What to bring? (2008-02-07)

James

Grand Junction, CO

haven't posted much, fun following the exploits of the Longmont crew though. Wondering if those of you who've been before have any "special" items that you'd recommend a person bring. We're not getting much riding in over here, have to hit it early before the mud & snow thaws. Been riding a "virtual" bike at the club, but watching the video screen can make me queasy. Normally ride Aspen, Vail & Summit Co all summer, due to traveling job. Lot's of climbing up there. Hope to be able to keep up with most of you. Haven't ridden more than Mary's etc.

(2008-02-04)

chris

My neighbor (bicky)has a formula for when it's time to shave your legs. After 500 miles of the new year. But he's an espresso sporting, watt burning, overly sponsored, leg shaving roadie.(and nemesis riding partner) Tile setter's knees don't look so pretty when shaved so the more hair the better.

(2008-02-04)

Vikin

Hobby Mont, CO

No, I haven't shaved. Not in a while. I'm ready to party extra fuzzy.

(2008-02-04)

chris

Rock Mardi gras. Micros on Bross at 5

(2008-02-04)

chris

I hope you at least shaved your legs Ryan.

(2008-02-04)

Viking

Wal*mont, CO

PS. To one and all, Rock the Caucus, tomorrow.

(2008-02-04)

Viking

Longmart, CO

RICO! - Has emerged. Where have you been? I like the cross training. I went to spin class today. unfortunately it's tomorrow. So nothing like lifting weights in your biking shorts. I'm sure tele'ing is better in bike shorts.

(2008-02-04)

chris

And some tanning lotion

(2008-02-04)

chris

That would be 60 degrees Sunday Ryan. I better break out the big pack and start filling it with goodies

(2008-02-04)

chris

Ok Rico, How'd ya do the picture. Only 330" of snow up there huh

(2008-02-04)

Rico

Cross Training...

(2008-02-04)

Viking

Longmont, CO

I think a long ride Sunday is in order - 50 Degrees. Oh yeah baby. Blue Sky to Lowry seems doable.

(2008-02-03)

Chris

longmont, Co

Looks like a heat wave with lot's of sun rolling in next weekend. What's on the agenda everybody?

(2008-02-01)

chris

I don't know Ryan. It's a tough call. Ever since I got mine 4 mos ago I've ridden my fully once. But this is a long ride and lot's of mixed terrain. The one time I rode my fully was in Moab and I was glad I had it. Maybe Eric will bust it out this year. One very valid point for a rigid ss 2niner is my derailer went kaput on day 2 in onion creek mud and had to middle ring it all the way up which I would of given anything for a ss . My SS is almost 0 maintainance and rip's on trails but when it get's rough like Devils Backbone kind of rough you know your fully was the right choice and I plan on stomping down Porc this year even faster. Next bike 29" full suspension.

Single Speed? (2008-02-01)

Viking

Who's riding single speed? I'm not but I was wondering who may be shucking the advances in technology for fully rigid single speed action.

Yer welcome (2008-01-31)

Viking

You're welcome. Chris is the man when it comes to stuff out that way. I'm looking forward to getting out that way in May, and being in good enough shape to really enjoy it! Ryan

Thanks for the great info (2008-01-30)

Mario

GJ, CO

Hey Chris and Viking, thanks for the info, I have been living here in GJ for 10 years and have ridden Rabbit Valley several times, but I don't seem to remember what you are describing. Can't wait to do some more exploring once the white stuff is gone. Now that I think about it, www.gjmountainbiking.com has some fairly good descriptions and maps of the Rabbit Valley area, as well as many other great rides on this side of the hills.

(2008-01-30)

Viking

Longmont, CO

I was talking about the Western Rim. The Western Rim travels over several types of rock. I figured granite was one of them. I think it is mainly Limestone and sandstone, but all in all it makes for a very fun day. does the Western Rim connect to Westwater? I was looking on my maps this weekend and Latitude 40 shows a thin black line connection to Westwater from the Western Rim trail.

Fear and Loathing on the Kokopelli (2008-01-29)

Chris

longmont, Co

Mario, It's the Western Rim trail at Rabbit Valley off of Trail # 2 and the Kokopelli. Just google it and you'll find trail maps and secret treasure all over the net. The start of the trail is sort of hidden and unmarked and you do this steep and deep sand drop in but it instantly rears it's charm and just get's better. Essentially you're skirting the rim of these huge canyons, one after another and it gracefully cascades downhill like the river below it, and has these sweet drops and berms with flowers and everything desert. I've seen many people scratching their heads trying to find where it starts only to give up. Trail# 2 is accessible in a few spot's off the kokopelli, particularly right after sag. Get on it right there and follow it until it brings you across the kokopelli in to what looks like a parking /turn around circle with a drop off straight ahead that looks traveled. Launch down that, travel through some really deep sand (the kind found in yellow jacket) and as you start heading down the steep and deep on you're right is the entrance. If you travel more than 200 feet down you passed it. Again the start is a ridiculously steep and sandy chute to the right before you head way out of your way. Option #2: After you sorrily missed the entrance to the Western rim and you're riding down some rutted section of the kokopelli glaring at the sweetest singletrack just below you, alas the second and third chance sweepstakes. There are a couple other spots along the kokopelli that drop in. Just look for obvious well traveled trails going off to you're left and head down and enjoy. It (WR) end's where singletrack meet's the doubletrack/jeep road after some steep drops and ledges and chutes. GO RIGHT Don't get sucked into that singletrack right across the road. It's evil. As Mr Viking said, This is one of the sweetest spots along the whole koko and it's on day one a few miles after sag.

Where's the Granite- Part two (2008-01-29)

Mario

GJ, CO

Hey Viking, where is this granite you are talking about? Is it near the "Black Rocks" section out by Westwater? Just wondering... Sorry about the first blank post that darn enter button gets me every time.

Where's the Granite? (2008-01-29)

Mario

(2008-01-29)

Chris

Longmont, Co

Anyone up for something Saturday. 30-40 miles maybe more. DB to Horsetooth and up or I've never been to Lory, maybe connect Bobcat ridge if it's close. Weather looks good for now mostly sunny lower 40s. C

(2008-01-29)

chris

The shuttle doesn't make sense anymore. Either you climb the 2000 ft gravel road after Dewey bridge which isn't horrendous imo or you get shuttled to a lower elevation only to climb up quite a bit through 13 or so stream crossings which can be obviously wet and uncomfortable. Choose your poison. If it's warm option 2 might be nice.

(2008-01-29)

Viking

Longmont, CO

Right on, Norm. Train long, train hard. Last year I had a terrible time training. If it wasn't the weather it was my job getting the better of me. Going into the ride it was pretty much OTC - off the couch - and riding. I did forget to mention there is a long climb late in the day on day two. Alex, in the past, has given folks the choice of doing a long "middle-chain-ring" climb or have a shuttle take riders to Onion Creek road. Either way you're climbing to camp 2. Train on.

Kokopelli (2008-01-29)

Norm

Columbia, SC

I'm not a big rider as far as time in the saddle goes but last year I did the BTC and really loved the challange of the multi-day ride. I'm training well right now and I should come into this ride in good shape. I'm glad you guys started to talk about the trail. Looking forward to doing the type of riding I've only read and seen pictures of.

(2008-01-28)

Viking

Longmont

Definitely save the legs. The third day is the test. It's easy to go all out on day 2. The first half the day is mostly downhill to sag. It's easy to try and see how fast you can tick those miles off. I'd suggest taking it easy and get to know your neighbor. This year my strategy will be to rest as much as possible on day two. Save up for the big, long, un-ending climbs of day 3 and hopefully (fingers crossed) have enough energy to do the trails Chris mentioned or, atleast, have enough energy to do the practice loop at Slick Rock.

(2008-01-28)

chris

longmont, Co

Day one is fun, day two is hard, day three is the test. Newbies save your legs. Consider some electrolyte supplements like endurolytes $12 investment to keep those legs moving and not cramping especially if it's hot. Day 3 is a twisted kind of fun now that you mentioned it, one of those days that you astonish yourself after those false summit teases. For the demented, after climbing out of castle valley sag on the road, go left where the kokopelli goes right to marked singletrack named Hazard County trail. Do an out and back on this new gem. Through aspen groves and high birthing grounds for elk on tight singletrack in a pristine environment, the downhill coming back is silly fun, fly across the road back on to kokopelli and just keep heading downhill for another two hours via porcupine. To my brother, we're riding all of it so get spinning. he he he

(2008-01-28)

Joe

Arvada, CO

The best part is the first 3 hours of day one and there is something sick and fun about suffering up the day 3 climb. Happy Training.

(2008-01-27)

chris

Longmont, Co

Exactly Ryan, Where are the other 156 people who broke down the internet doors to get on this trip? This will be my 4th trip and I am even more ecstatic about going this year come sun, rain, or snow. I have no preference to any certain stretch of trail as all is good when I'm in the middle of nowhere on a bike.

Favorite part of the kokopelli (2008-01-27)

Viking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

OK, so there has to be more than us four Longmont folks checking out the ride chat. So lets do just that, chat about the coming ride. I'll pose this question: What's your favorite section of the Kokopelli? Mine is the Western Rim option on Day 1. The first time I rode that was in 2006. It was truly awesome. I loved the hero drops and banging along on the granite/sandstone faces. Lots of fun.

Sunday, Sunday, Sunday (2008-01-25)

Viking

So, we ride Sunday. How about riding the Blue Sky to Fort Collins down to 34 Road for a burger and beer and back to Loveland?

Riding (2008-01-25)

Scott

Longmont

50's on Sunday!! Yeah I'm in for a MTB'ering ride!! Devils Backbone?

Weekend Ride (2008-01-23)

Viking

I've got the greenlight for a long ride this weekend? Chris, Scott, Rob, Mike, et. anyone else, up for doing the Blue Sky on either Saturday or Sunday? Biking Viking

(2008-01-21)

chris

Scott, It was great when global warming actually made things warm. Spring is just around the corner and the 90 day outlook is warmer and drier. I've got a spanky new light that's dying to burn some retinas. I rode slickrock with it last year, but my helmet was broke and causing it to fall over my eyes so my first experience was tough. But some local fun would be cool although the only trail I think is "legally" allowed to ride on at night is nighthawk at Hall ranch. Just kidding. somewhat. Anyway let's get a group email list or just post here for some future ride's. ok cool hand luke

(2008-01-21)

chris

Rob, Ditto on Ringwood. Just one day on my FS. 14 degrees is pretty rough to start but horsetooth only goes one way to start, right. I've been riding Flagstaff in the snow on my SS and have been dealing with keeping the tire from spinning only to find the real challenge is coming back down. Maybe in the coming weeks we can catch up. My wife's out of town this weekend and I've got my lovely daughter to amuse or be amused by for 4 days so no riding this one. Maybe a hike. I'm at 7th and Bross and some other bikerpellians are close also. I'll keep ya posted.. Chris

Chris (2008-01-21)

Rob

Longmont, CO

Chris, Ive lived in Longmont for 3 years. I live on Collyer in the old part of town. I'm riding it with my riding partner, Mike. I don't know who Ryan is. Mike and I ride together as much as we can on the MTB. I ride any kind of bike you can think of except BMX. I had a Cat. 2 license in the 80's when I rode for Cycle Sport in Park Ridge. I had a Cat. 2 license when Davis Phinney was winning all the time. If he didn't win Steve Bauer did. I'm dating myself. I miss Ringwood all the time. I wish I could blink my eyes and go back for a day, ride and blink again and be home. I used to love the way the trail was so different in the different seasons. Fallen leaves on the trail doesn't happen out here. We rode Horsetooth on Saturday. It was 14 degrees when we got out of the truck. The road up to the tower was covered with ice. We both thought it was fun. You had to concentrate very hard to not spin your back wheel and to not lose the front end. When we got to the trails we wanted to ride the snow was 8 inches deep and couldn't ride them. The ride down was an adventure.

Riding (2008-01-21)

Scott

Longmont

Hey Chris, took the roadbike out yesterday for a quick jaunt down 66 to acclimate to the cold and no so friendly weather just because of your guys' story from last year ;o) Then I stopped by the Viking's and helped him for about 2 seconds (just enough time to get a glove soaked with water) and rode home . . . glove froze at about uuhhhhhh Coffman and fingers went numb at about 9th and Lashley!!!! Ahhhhh cold weather riding gotta luv it!! We gotta get out and do some MTB'ering one of these weekends or weeknights if the Temp's improve!!! Headlamps anyone????????

(2008-01-20)

chris

Longmart

Hey Bill, I glad your psyched. You'll be fine. Don't forget to practice some technical stuff and show those Ringwood trails whose boss. Lets talk this week. Rob, We're actually from Hawthorne. How long have you lived in Longmont? Are you a friend of Ryan's or are you doing the koko with someone else. I live by Roosevelt park if you want to join up with us for some "training rides" ha ha. At the very least, I'll try to organize another pre koko ride and eats the day before at 18 rd in Fruita for some people to get acquainted and warmed up for the big ride. I say try because last year they got their annual rainfall on the way over and then all hell broke loose on the trail.(please no more koko gods 75 and sunny) At least this year I've been riding in the snow and cold so I'll be prepared for anything. Chris

Training Hard (2008-01-20)

Billy G

Mahwah, NJ

Hey Rob, thanks for the advice. I have ridden part of the Kokopelli with my brother already...I am really looking forward to doing the entire thing! My goal is to be in the best shape of my life when I arrive...I will settle for nothing less. My brother lives in Longmont as well...too funny...

Billy g. (2008-01-19)

Rob Nierengarden

Longmont,Co

Billy, I'm from Ridgewood, NJ. I've lived here for 3 years. Make sure you come here fit. It will be a lot more fun for you. The altitude makes a big difference. If you can ride well here, you can kick butt back there.

East Coast Taking On The Desert! (2008-01-19)

Billy G

Mahwah, NJ

Greetings all! I am coming west this May to take the on desert with brother Chris from Colorado who has done the ride at least 5 times! Looking forward to a great trip. Super cold here, but training hard none the less... See everyone soon!

Trip 2 (2008-01-18)

Joe

Golden, CO

Eddie!! I am glad to hear you will be joining us this year. Hopefully we can all suffer together on the day 3 climb.

Snow Tires (2008-01-16)

Scott

Longmont, CO

Well I better put the snow tires on den!!!! Knew I shoulda bought that Surly Pugsley!!!!!

White Ranch (2008-01-16)

BV

White Ranch will most likely be just that, white. Looks like points south and up high are getting snow today. I think the Blue Sky trail may be the best bet. BV

White Ranch (2008-01-16)

Scott

Longmont, CO

How bout riding White Ranch on Sat. A.M.?

(2008-01-15)

BV

Ditto, Chris & Scott.

(2008-01-15)

Chris

Hey Scott, I called Poison Spider today and they said the trails were a bit less than optimal and the only chance to ride it was when it was frozen, but there is snow covering most trails, IMO I'd rather stay here and ride Blue sky and Backbone as it's 100% dry and save ourselves 12 hours of driving. I'm in for whatever day on the weekend ya want to ride if you don't head out.

Riding this weekend (2008-01-15)

Rob

Longmont, Co

Scott, Post on MTBR exactly what you said here. You probably will get an answer. (Forums-Colorado Front Range) I haven't missed too many weekends this Winter. We go early so everything is frozen. We have also done alot of riding in the snow this year.

Riding this weekend (2008-01-15)

Scott

Longmont, CO

Hey I'm looking to do some riding this weekend (Sat. & Sun.) Anyone out west have any suggestions on what's rideable right now? I'm new to riding in CO in the winter so any help that I can get will be - well helpful I guess!! Thanks

Grand Junction Riding? (2008-01-14)

Mario

Grand Junction, Colorado

Anyone out there from Junction doing the ride? If so, we should do some training rides. Early morning Lunch Loops have not been bad while the mud is still frozen (pre- 8 AM).

I have returned. (2008-01-13)

Viking

I came, I saw, I kicked boo-tay! Or, rather skied it. It was a great weekend in Winter Park. Massive snow! Thanks for the grouting and tile work. It really is extraordinary. Great vision. I'm looking forward to next weekend. Moab would be great! I'm gonna crank on the small projects I have left. (Like re-doing the kitchen) then be ready to rock and roll. I got some birthday money from afar so I'm ready to roll, baby.

(2008-01-13)

chris

Awesome Scott. Let's hope for some good weather. I was in Moab last Feb and it was surprisingly perfect considering our snow situation on the front range. Essentially anywhere that was getting sun was dry. I've got some cold weather riding gear so it work's for me as long as the trails allow. Mental note: Beer, camera, Bike... That brother of yours is doing a great job on that house. Now that he's DONE he'll be cranking away all the time, isn't that right Ryan...

Moab (2008-01-12)

Scott

Longmoooooont

Chris, nice job on the fireplace I stopped by to check it out today - was hoping to maybe catch up with you at the Viking's. I talked to the Viking today and he was down with riding somewhere next weekend? I'm pretty sure that means I'm driving us all to Moab!!

(2008-01-11)

Chris

What's the itinerary Ryan? Mid winter Moab sounds like fun. I may be able to spare a couple days next weekend. The FP looks spanky.

Message lengths (2008-01-10)

Bikerpelli Sports

Arizona, Boulder, all over...

Made some adjustments to the RideChat, you should be able to post much longer messages now.

Moab Conditions (2008-01-10)

Biking Viking

Anyone heard how the conditions are in Moab, now? I'm coming up on a free weekend next week and am thinking about it.

(2008-01-10)

Chris

Just you Ryan. When we riding? I know, after I finish the FP, right? Ride chat lacks continuous subject posting and length of posts are way to short for us gabbers. Any way to fix Alex or just go yahoo Bikerpelli?

(2008-01-10)

Biking Viking

Anyone single speeding this year?

(2008-01-09)

chris

CO

You can buy some high tech solar rechargers from REI. Now all you need is some sun.

Recharge station (2008-01-09)

Konawood

Upland, CA

Anyone know if a car cig adapter or energy source will be available for Garmin 305 GPS or Ipods that don't have typical batteries that can be replaced.

Greenhorn (2008-01-08)

Scott

Longmont, CO

Hey y'all. I'll be on the trail for the first time this year!! I've heard a lot about it and now I'm jones'in to get out on it!!! See you all on the trail.

Post - Length (2008-01-08)

Biking Viking

Longmont, CO - 1st Ride

Anyway to increase the length of posts? I'm noticing the windier riders are getting cut off. Or maybe we resort to texting... lol Always something to whine about.Glad to see lots of folks using the ridechat. rjk

Da beer (2008-01-08)

Rico

Rico likes Dales too Cans are convenient! Kegs are better!

Elevation (2008-01-08)

Norm

Cliff, last year I did the BTC which was on the roads (415 miles, 6 days of riding) and averaged maybe close to 9000 ft. in elevation for the campouts. I had no problem with the climbs because I was in good shape. I think the thing that worked for me was

(2008-01-08)

Don

Loveland, CO

I'm in. And partial to Dale's. Anyone from Longmont/Loveland/Fort Collins area want to rideshare for the second trip? I've done the first section--Mary's Loop/Horsethief Bench/Steve's Loop--about ten times, looking forward to the real deal.

(2008-01-08)

Cliff

Knoxville, TN

Yes, I'll be coming from Knoxville, TN. I can see a few 6000+ ft peaks out my window, but Knoxville itself sits in a river valley at about 1000 ft above sea level. In other words, I think I'll also be elevation challenged.

Ship or Rent Bike (2008-01-08)

Hawk

Atlanta, GA

Hey Guys - This will be my first Kokopelli Trail ride. Does anyone have a recommendation for shipping your bike to Colorodo or renting a bike when you get there? Is anyone from the Eastern U.S. going? -Hawk

First ride (2008-01-08)

Norman Ferris

Columbia,SC

" Ready am I to go, and my eagerness with sails full set awaits the wind".

(2008-01-07)

Ryan Kragerud aka Biking Viking

Longmont, CO

2 Below is some good stuff too. But Dales is the cure for what ales you.

(2008-01-07)

Justin

Colorado Springs transplant from Grand Junction

James, I'm in! Eric only needed to ask me once if I'd want to join you guys. I'm looking forward to riding there again. I'll call ya later.

(2008-01-07)

Chris

Franks, OPP?? You in?

(2008-01-07)

Chris

It was easier to get tickets in front row at the world series this year... I second the Dale's although 2 Below ale from New Belgium rules Ryan (mr 12 z). Especially since it might be that cold...

As long as it's cold (2008-01-07)

James

Grand Junction, CO

Received my confirmation email, so that means I'm in. WAHOOO! is right, I've wanted to do this for years. There's a bunch of us that were going to do this, hope you all got in.

(2008-01-07)

jerry

colorado springs

WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Where ya from - (2008-01-07)

Ryan Kragerud

Longmont, CO

I'm chiming in from Longmont - Gordon's IS good. But I love that fresh spring water - Dales.

(2008-01-07)

Tom

Highlands Ranch, CO

First ride, lookin' forward to it. Let the training begin!

(2008-01-07)

Chris

Who's in and where ya from. May we all have a 75 and sunny trip

(2008-01-07)

Budah

Dale's is spring water. Bring on the Gordon's. A six pack for each sag.

Woot (2008-01-07)

Rico

All right week one - bring the snow!!!!

Dales Vs Boulder Brewing (2008-01-07)

Biking Viking

Longmont, CO

I'll be the first to throw this down. Alex, could you get Dale's to donate the brew? Nothing like Dale's Pale Ale. mmmmmm Boulder Brewing was good - but Dale's is sponsoring the Mountain States Cup and a variety of other Mtb events. Lets give them

ride 2 (2008-01-07)

bill

denver co

boo-ya :) see ya on 5/8 for my 2nd adventure on the trail

(2008-01-07)

baoM

The witching hour is upon us. The official new year will begin. You get three wishes.??

Lookin' Forward (2008-01-06)

Biking Viking

Longmont, CO - Chris' neighbor

Lookin' forward to another great ride. Good thing I've been training for the past several weeks. Do 12 ounce curls count?rjk

2008 Bikerpelli ! (2008-01-06)

Chris

Longmont, Co

Bikerpelli rules. Don't miss this ride. Unparalleled remote desert canyon riding on tight and twisty trails all the while skirting the beautiful Colorado river and endlessly aiming at the snowcapped LaSal mountains. It could be 30, 70, or 100 degrees

Time to start cooking? (2008-01-06)

Ian

Denver, CO

The famous purple oatmeal returns this year.